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Cola 05-10-08 11:09 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Teevy Wonder
"hahahaha" @ people being so damn stupid and controlled by the internet that they think i am getting "owned" on this message board for expressing the views of any intellectual OUTSIDE of RV.

and you would agree with Red Bull's ways of thinking about shit... damn black/Harold & Kumar Republican. you should make a remix of Jay and Nas' "Black Republican"... except change it to "Black/Harold & Kumar Republican" and claim that its really "featuring Jay-Z and Nas" to get more plays on soundclick!!!!!!!!! yayyyy, great idea!!!



i gotta know, where the fuck do you go to college at???

J. Luth 05-10-08 11:13 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by King_Aphilly
i gotta know, where the fuck do you go to college at???

^UNC...

and just because they're a top 50 college in the US, this kid automatically thinks he knows everything, and is better than everyone, and has an Ego that seems to be quickly gaining on Tha Q.

seriously look at any discussion thread on OT. Watch him butt in and go "OMG YOU GUYS ARE IDIOTS FOR THINKING THIS" or something to that tune, and put in his garbage thoughts.

Kid says he don't care bout an internet message board, then gets so heated in every thread.

Cola 05-10-08 11:17 PM

lol, this guy's prob. in debt like a mother fucker....thats a known fact.


as far as goign to UNC, what the fuck are they teachin you their dude? to be a complete fuck about discussing statements?? Speech and Debate 101, take it, learn it, live it.

La Cosa Nostra 05-11-08 12:13 AM

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Originally Posted by King_Aphilly
this statement just makes me laugh tho, cuz think of how many coutnries would fight each other. The Brits and French and they would just always end up in a stalemate? Then they'd just go away for a while, and then fight each other again. Technology, most of the time, is a devlopment for the country in some OTHER way than war. Than some general see's how it can be put to use in war and snatches it up.....

if you say so man

Blay'all 05-11-08 12:21 AM

Top 50? Try Top 20 & Top 5 Public Universities in the Nation...

but that doesn't even matter... just technicalities. Spul, i've never claimed that i don't spend alot of time on the internet or post alot on internet message boards... what i DO claim is that i don't become so enthralled with this shit that i let some kind of e-personality create e-confidence in my little e-homies backing up my ridiculous statements on a message board.

and Aphilly, as well as being Top 5 Public Schools in the Nation, UNC is also known as being one of the if not THE best values in the Nation as far as quality of education for your money goes... we're known as the university of the people, and i've fallen in love with the "Carolina spirit," if you will... the free, open minded way of thinking that you can only understand from living in a community like this.

and i'm actually a communications studies major and got asked to do a really big research study for the university this summer that i'm being paid $3000 for alone, and i've been getting straight A's and B's in all of my classes and shit, which does NOT just happen at a school like this. so, what i'm saying is - i actually STUDY communications (the "Speech and Debate 101" that you speak of) - and i'm doing a damn good job of it, which is why i laugh most of you fools off b/c of how ridiculous your views are... ESPECIALLY your views of what being intelligent and making a "good argument" are. but you wouldn't realize this unless you try engaging with people OUTSIDE of RV or your middle/high school lunch table full of ignorant fucks.

La Cosa Nostra 05-11-08 01:12 AM

spul is about as interlectual as sports journalism.

i thought everyone knew that..

Adam 05-11-08 04:30 AM

School's a joke, period.

Read and repeat, read and repeat. Paying people to learn what they want you to learn to work the jobs they want you to work. The jobs they want you to work so they can tax the shit out of it and fuck you up the ass.

Common sense, now that's knowledge.

So fuck whatever school you're wasting your money in, you're not intelligent for knowing what everybody else in your classes know as well.

Besides, anybody who wants to put some REAL thought into their future would know that the industry to get into right now is the trades instead of being in debt thousands of dollars for getting a piece of paper.

J. Luth 05-11-08 09:23 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Baphomet
spul is about as interlectual as sports journalism.

i thought everyone knew that..


intelectual ;) (quit trying dawg. It's not gon work)




Quote:
Originally Posted by T R A V Y
Top 50? Try Top 20 & Top 5 Public Universities in the Nation...

but that doesn't even matter... just technicalities. Spul, i've never claimed that i don't spend alot of time on the internet or post alot on internet message boards... what i DO claim is that i don't become so enthralled with this shit that i let some kind of e-personality create e-confidence in my little e-homies backing up my ridiculous statements on a message board.

and Aphilly, as well as being Top 5 Public Schools in the Nation, UNC is also known as being one of the if not THE best values in the Nation as far as quality of education for your money goes... we're known as the university of the people, and i've fallen in love with the "Carolina spirit," if you will... the free, open minded way of thinking that you can only understand from living in a community like this.

and i'm actually a communications studies major and got asked to do a really big research study for the university this summer that i'm being paid $3000 for alone, and i've been getting straight A's and B's in all of my classes and shit, which does NOT just happen at a school like this. so, what i'm saying is - i actually STUDY communications (the "Speech and Debate 101" that you speak of) - and i'm doing a damn good job of it, which is why i laugh most of you fools off b/c of how ridiculous your views are... ESPECIALLY your views of what being intelligent and making a "good argument" are. but you wouldn't realize this unless you try engaging with people OUTSIDE of RV or your middle/high school lunch table full of ignorant fucks.


last time I checked, a top 20 school IS also a top 50. ;)

And like I said, just because you go to a top school doesn't make you smarter than everyone.

And you DO become so wrapped up in this shit. Like I said, almost any discussion thread in the Off-topic last few days. You come butting in like you're Mr. Know it all, and start off by calling the thread maker an idiot for his views. I'm sure you've learned from your "TOP 5 PUBLIC SCHOOL" that everyone has a right to their own opinion, right? So a simple "I actually disagree with what you're saying, because... " would suffice, instead of throwing out personal attacks that just screams out insecurity.

and I like how you get on people for making assumptions about you, then continue to keep making assumptions about everyone else. well played =/

Cola 05-11-08 09:31 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by T R A V Y
Top 50? Try Top 20 & Top 5 Public Universities in the Nation...

but that doesn't even matter... just technicalities. Spul, i've never claimed that i don't spend alot of time on the internet or post alot on internet message boards... what i DO claim is that i don't become so enthralled with this shit that i let some kind of e-personality create e-confidence in my little e-homies backing up my ridiculous statements on a message board.

and Aphilly, as well as being Top 5 Public Schools in the Nation, UNC is also known as being one of the if not THE best values in the Nation as far as quality of education for your money goes... we're known as the university of the people, and i've fallen in love with the "Carolina spirit," if you will... the free, open minded way of thinking that you can only understand from living in a community like this.

and i'm actually a communications studies major and got asked to do a really big research study for the university this summer that i'm being paid $3000 for alone, and i've been getting straight A's and B's in all of my classes and shit, which does NOT just happen at a school like this. so, what i'm saying is - i actually STUDY communications (the "Speech and Debate 101" that you speak of) - and i'm doing a damn good job of it, which is why i laugh most of you fools off b/c of how ridiculous your views are... ESPECIALLY your views of what being intelligent and making a "good argument" are. but you wouldn't realize this unless you try engaging with people OUTSIDE of RV or your middle/high school lunch table full of ignorant fucks.



^^ funny how the kid that pays TONS of fucking money still has the most biased views on the board. You claim that becuase you are going to UNC that you are smart. N that by stating that your getting A's and B's while taking class's is hard??? For all i know, your taking whack ass freshman and sophmore aka 100 and 101 classes. On top of that your major is a joke :thumbup: Your just some snobby ass faggot who thinks that by paying alot of money to go to school with a name that you'll someday become a somebody. I can assure you that your attitude will only direct you in a downward spiral. You sound like your mom and dad are paying for college, you dont do shit outside of goign to class and sitting in your dorm room, and that your social life is actually on the internet. That lil piece of paper you get when you graduate, is just that...a piece of paper. A college degree simply gets you intereviews, not jobs. So keep on living in your 'college spirit' so that way when you do graduate this thing called 'the real world' can come and jack off on your fucking face. :hump:

Cola 05-11-08 09:34 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by SPuLâ„¢
intelectual ;) (quit trying dawg. It's not gon work)






last time I checked, a top 20 school IS also a top 50. ;)

And like I said, just because you go to a top school doesn't make you smarter than everyone.

And you DO become so wrapped up in this shit. Like I said, almost any discussion thread in the Off-topic last few days. You come butting in like you're Mr. Know it all, and start off by calling the thread maker an idiot for his views. I'm sure you've learned from your "TOP 5 PUBLIC SCHOOL" that everyone has a right to their own opinion, right? So a simple "I actually disagree with what you're saying, because... " instead of throwing out personal attacks.

and I like how you get on people for making assumptions about you, then continue to keep making assumptions about everyone else. well played =/



no shit dude, what a fucking inbred douche bag

Indeph 05-11-08 09:54 AM

I don't even know where to start to be honest

It's just about what some cultures were willing to do and what some weren't. If you look at America for example. The native americans welcolmed the europeans with open arms and taught them alot, and the europeans killed them and took over. Africa was a very wealthy continent but then of you know, stuff happened. Africans TAUGHT several of these great ancient societies people now worship. The egyptions were also predominately african.

And the slave trade isnt what MADE the africans wealthy dumbass who ever said that. The african continent in general was robbed something terrible by alot of the middle eastern armies AND once again, european colonizers. This resulted in africa being very poor, which FORCED them to participate in the slave trade. This doesn't make the europeans "dominate", this just means at that time the europeans were the only ones who wanted control enough to go that far for it. And that desire obviously results in more progress if the other races aren't willing to match or top it.

Honestly, I don't wanna take shit down these same roads, but it's THAT type of thinking that leads to so many "I hate white people" speeches from bitter black people. People look at history and only see one side of it, but don't ackowledge HOW it got that way, just the fact that it happened.

When I was born it was already like this, the same shit with you. Just because your ancestors got one over on mine DOES NOT make you superior to me. I'm not nearly as naive as they are, trust me.

La Cosa Nostra 05-11-08 09:58 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by SPuLâ„¢
intelectual ;) (quit trying dawg. It's not gon work)

dog is spelt 'd o g' and 'gon' is not a word.


who are YOU fooling buddy

Indeph 05-11-08 09:59 AM

I never understood why nos always spells so bad

He'll say mad smart shit, but then mispell words. I think he thinks more than he reads or some shit

La Cosa Nostra 05-11-08 10:02 AM

im not a dictionary...

i spell words like i say them.. people who get uppity about spelling are wasting their time..

Cola 05-11-08 10:03 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Indeph
I don't even know where to start to be honest

It's just about what some cultures were willing to do and what some weren't. If you look at America for example. The native americans welcolmed the europeans with open arms and taught them alot, and the europeans killed them and took over. Africa was a very wealthy continent but then of you know, stuff happened. Africans TAUGHT several of these great ancient societies people now worship. The egyptions were also predominately african.

And the slave trade isnt what MADE the africans wealthy dumbass who ever said that. The african continent in general was robbed something terrible by alot of the middle eastern armies AND once again, european colonizers. This resulted in africa being very poor, which FORCED them to participate in the slave trade. This doesn't make the europeans "dominate", this just means at that time the europeans were the only ones who wanted control enough to go that far for it. And that desire obviously results in more progress if the other races aren't willing to match or top it.

Honestly, I don't wanna take shit down these same roads, but it's THAT type of thinking that leads to so many "I hate white people" speeches from bitter black people. People look at history and only see one side of it, but don't ackowledge HOW it got that way, just the fact that it happened.

When I was born it was already like this, the same shit with you. Just because your ancestors got one over on mine DOES NOT make you superior to me. I'm not nearly as naive as they are, trust me.


tha fuck kinda of bullshit is this?? How in the fuck can you say that, when black people were selling black people!??

Indeph 05-11-08 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by King_Aphilly
tha fuck kinda of bullshit is this?? How in the fuck can you say that, when black people were selling black people!??


Black people weren't the only slaves. And black people are constantly screwing black people over that's not the point. A black person isnt the one making threads asking if they're superior to me or not. My point is, black people, or actually non white ppl in general usually stayed at home. Caucasions have been the race to go to OTHER nations and take over. The fact that caucasions have been WILLING to do that, does not mean other races COULDNT HAVE done so.

I mean seriously, we call native americans indians just because Some white dude originally wanted to go to india and got lost. This crap is just retarded. I really hate having to go on these long ass rants all the time, but I hate having to hear people constantly coming up with these incredibly ingenius theories about their skin making them superior to me and my family. It's the ultimate form of "I don't know you, but I have already formed my opinion about you". It's like jesus christ would you shut the fuck up -_-

I hate hearing this crap all the time. Especially since when I actually respond to it, I'm gonna be the one getting accused of playing the "race card". People attack people who attack racism more than they attack racism nowadays because of this fuckin anti political correctness crusade.

Cola 05-11-08 10:18 AM

i highly suggest that you get out of your chair, switch off you computer and go sit down for a while.....

but honestly, if you just re-read what you typed...it seems like you are attacking white people. Period. Your stating that white people aka caucasians are all about moving out and taking over land. Tha fuck are you talking about?? Native Americans migrated from Russia to North America. I can pretty much assure you if they ran across some people along their way they wouldn't be like, chip chip cherrio. N what about white people attacking white people?? You pretty much have formed your entire arguement on the fact that white people simply colonized other countries before other races could colinize ours. But you failed to also mention all the other non white coutnries that tried to take over other non whtie countries. Your seeing this argument to much in a white vs colored arguement, when it should really be looked at as a culture vs culture.

Indeph 05-11-08 10:30 AM

I'm seeing the argument as a white vs colored argument? THE ENTIRE THREAD is about that. The topic is wether we're really the same or not. Saying white people are superior because they've accomplished so much more than other races. I didn't play that card, the original poster did. It's not a culture vs culture argument because the OP is asking if we're all, as in the races, are the same. Not the cultures.

And what you're doing is exactly what I was talking about. You're acting as if I'm the the first person in this thread to bring this up, I said what I said, because that's what happened, period. And the history of it is recorded in such a positive light because caucasions WROTE the history. History is written by the winners, and caucasions have definetly won in the periods we're talking about. We say christopher columbus DISCOVERED america, as if America only began to exact when white people arrived. We act as if Africa has never advanced as a civilization, just because it's current state is completley fucked up. All you see from Africa on TV now is poor bullshit and war. What I'm saying is how it got that way.

It seems like I'm attacking because it's negative. If what I'm saying is attacking, then you saying blacks sold blacks is attacking black people. I swear to God I don't have a single problem with white people, and if it sounds like I'm angry it's because I am. I'm mad because I DONT LIKE having to talk to people like this all the time. But it seems like fuckin 90% of the internet is full of people who have absolutely no knowledge of what they're saying, but already feel so passionately about it. You don't have to try to understand, but don't try to twist shit like I hate white people or some shit when you didn't accuse any of these white people of hating black people for what they said.

J. Luth 05-11-08 10:50 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Baphomet
dog is spelt 'd o g' and 'gon' is not a word.


who are YOU fooling buddy

"Dawg" and "Gon" are commonly used slang words. When used, they are SPELLED (not spelt ;) as I SPELLED them. While "intellectual" is never SPELLED "interlectual".

Oh, and you forgot your comma after fooling.

So who are YOU fooling, buddy? :evilgrin: Wanna hump? :hump:

Indeph 05-11-08 11:07 AM

Spul's reasoning has been destroyed by various rock band sessions and rap abandoning.

J. Luth 05-11-08 11:18 AM

^LOL nigg. Get the fuck on AIM. I gotta show you something. no homooo

Blay'all 05-11-08 11:24 AM

i actually stated that i DIDN'T think that going to a Top 5 school makes me better than anybody else... my whole point was not that i was better than anybody else, but that i am doing well studying EXACTLY what ya'll are accusing me of not knowing anything about at a school that is not easy to do so at. that was my whole point... and that it is the "university of the people" and that i've been exposed to alllllll kinds of different people and prefer to be educated and open-minded about ALLLLL different cultures, not just my own.

and Aphilly, seriously... we all know the only reason you're jumping on the opportunity to diss me is because you want somebody to rival how hated you are on this website and to re-gain some of your e-friends. keep it moving... i'm going to school primarily on loans that I will pay off. i'm not the snotty college kid you're describing, i'm actually the opposite... an open-minded, broke college kid. i'm just trying to get yall to be at least semi-open minded too. keep dissing me for going to a top university... greeeeeeeeat idea. like i said, you're just trying to jump on the opportunity of regaining some of your loser e-friends by dissing me. and I'M the one who, in your mind, isn't going anywhere in life because I go to a presitigous university... LOL, pathetic. keep up the hating homey.

and this whole e-ego argument over who can spell better is a perfect example of this ridiculous bullshit that absorbs yall, then you diss me for somehow not having a life because i'm going to a top university. LOL.

Blay'all 05-11-08 11:34 AM

and Aphilly, i'm sure i have wayyyyyyyy more of a social life at UNC than you do where ever you are... but i'm not gonna engage in one of these pathetic e-ego arguments with you that i just described. and as far as me somehow being a loser in your mind because i go to college lol, i'm sure raising your child with no college degree is going to cost you WAYYYYYY more and make you wayyyyyyy more broke than me going to college is me. lol

whatever though dude.

J. Luth 05-11-08 11:37 AM

^LOL @ you continuing to take everything serious on the net. Obviously I was fucking around with Nos, because he likes to try to be a smart ass and try to provoke reactions from people for his own entertainment. So I did that to get under his skin, which from past experiences is pretty easy to do.

and if you are studying that, then you should know that starting with a personal attack isn't the right way to go about when disagreeing with someone. That's exactly what I'm saying. You claim, that everyone on RV is so uneducated and have skewed views. Well, why does it get you so heated and why do you care so much to try and change it? Who made you the savior of the internet?

Adam 05-11-08 12:11 PM

Yeah, T R A V Y has to give it up, it's just flat out fucking annoying now.

Blay'all 05-11-08 12:13 PM

i don't start any discussion by throwing out personal insults SPuL, the only person i insulted was you and i was far from starting that, "lil daddy."

Blay'all 05-11-08 12:21 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Adam
Yeah, T R A V Y has to give it up, it's just flat out fucking annoying now.

give what up? sorry, i don't speak douchebag.

lol, if i'm gonna be accused of "starting discussions with insults" when i don't then i'm at least going to start doing it. i start every discussion with actual political or ideological arguments... then it usually leads to SPuL's only point of any kind of relevance being calling me "lil daddy," and everybody else just saying the most ignorant statements they can think of to get attention.

J. Luth 05-11-08 12:29 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by T R A V Y
i don't start any discussion by throwing out personal insults SPuL, the only person i insulted was you and i was far from starting that, "lil daddy."

you don't?

just look at this thread:

"see, what you're failing to realize is how tainted your point of view is."

how you began. Calling somebody's point of view tainted is an attack. A better way to go about that would of been like "I personally disagree with your point of view, because.... " and I can quote other threads too where you come in busting in like "Mr. Know it all" and that everything you say is right.

and the fact you feel the need to insult me only proves that no matter how much you deny it, you are getting heated by words on a "internet message board" ;)

J. Luth 05-11-08 12:29 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by T R A V Y
give what up? sorry, i don't speak douchebag.

lol, if i'm gonna be accused of "starting discussions with insults" when i don't then i'm at least going to start doing it. i start every discussion with actual political or ideological arguments... then it usually leads to SPuL's only point of any kind of relevance being calling me "lil daddy," and everybody else just saying the most ignorant statements they can think of to get attention.

you might not speak it, but you do a pretty good job of acting the part, lil daddy .

Wanna fuck? :hump:

Adam 05-11-08 12:44 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by T R A V Y
give what up? sorry, i don't speak douchebag.

lol, if i'm gonna be accused of "starting discussions with insults" when i don't then i'm at least going to start doing it. i start every discussion with actual political or ideological arguments... then it usually leads to SPuL's only point of any kind of relevance being calling me "lil daddy," and everybody else just saying the most ignorant statements they can think of to get attention.


For somebody "so intelligent" you think you would be able to come up with a better insult than creating a language called "douchebag" for my posts.

Hmm..

Let's recap:

Quote:
Originally Posted by T R A V Y
see, what you're failing to realize is how tainted your point of view is. it hasn't ALWAYS been the way it is today. take the world back 200 years and Africa is a flourishing land with a society just as advanced as European society. it wasn't until European colonization of Africa that shit started getting fucked up, do your research...

what i'm saying is, you're asking this question from the point of view of someone living in 2008, but you aren't applying modern events or circumstances in order to come to your conclusions. you're assuming that the way it is now is the way it has always been due to some kind of natural process that occurred way back. but the truth is, the world only became like how it is now recently.


Hmm..

You're not calling down my opinion there? That was your first post in this thread. I say it's a fair assumption for people to say you come into threads and begin discussions with insults. What you fail to understand is that I obviously don't know the answer to this question, that's why I posted a thread about it and didn't state what I thought in the first post, but waited until the discussion started rolling.

And then somebody came in and starting calling everybody else's thoughts down. Oh yeah, that person was you.

So shut the fuck up bucko, you're just been proved wrong again. You're an annoying fuck who nobody seems to agree with on this board. So maybe you should go have these discussions with your Top 5 school buddies while you pretend you're living a good life. :thumbup:

J. Luth 05-11-08 01:11 PM

^LOL there you go. RED BULL FOR '08!

J. Luth 05-11-08 01:13 PM

damn here is a better example from the thread titled "Enygma" (:hump:) :

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lil daddy
wow, you guys are seriously idiots.

"islamic extremists"?????? you seriously believe that bullshit?

and 2v, you speak of these horrible snipers sitting in their windows waiting to pick off innocent US soldiers. did you ever think about who's country WE'RE in???

it doesn't take an "extremist" to defend their own country, that is a bullshit way of viewing things that you have been brainwashed into thinking by the US media's representation of the war (which has its best interest in continuing that war).

pretend some "normal" muslims (not extreme like the ones with guns killing people standing right next to OUR soldiers with guns killing people ) came into the United States and started bombing our schools and cities, killing thousands of innocent civilians. would we be "extremist" to be out there with guns ourselves defending OUR country?

open up your minds.


:nono: .

05-11-08 01:16 PM

*coughs*

werd

oh and someone bring up the point i made, since i was like, the only one to make a point. lol @ someone saying white people traveled everywhere and got lost. Again, my argument: Culture

The white dude's had kings and queens and wanted to Explore in the name of Kingdoms and Religion, so they borrowed money and went on white Quests. This wouldn't be possible, if they weren't white and in a white society created and maintained, by whites.

>_>

Nitrogen 05-11-08 01:45 PM

i agree wit everything exept there reasons for the quest. their quest was for anything that could make them more powerful. now exclude everything i just said if you meant that to be included when you said kingdoms. but as far as religion im sure thats not why they originally left on these journeys. after they discoverd new places, they mightve had religious reasons then, but i just dont think that was on of their reasons for the initial voyage

05-11-08 01:56 PM

You can't really say. You don't know what was going on through their heads at the time, I just know from recorded history that some of the reasons were:

Kingdom building, Migrating to new lands, Being pioneers, Converting Religions.

Cola 05-11-08 03:34 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by T R A V Y
and Aphilly, i'm sure i have wayyyyyyyy more of a social life at UNC than you do where ever you are... but i'm not gonna engage in one of these pathetic e-ego arguments with you that i just described. and as far as me somehow being a loser in your mind because i go to college lol, i'm sure raising your child with no college degree is going to cost you WAYYYYYY more and make you wayyyyyyy more broke than me going to college is me. lol

whatever though dude.



lol @ at how the only thing this faggot can find to diss on me is for having a kid??? really? thats it? I just got another job offering to work at Coke dude. seriously i can get a job at any high paying place in the city that i work at. I actually turn jobs down. Like i said, keep goin to school for a pointless ass degree that will never get you anywere. You make 3000 over the summer and in the span of three months?? I make that IN a month. fuck, now your just becoming a classic faggot

Blay'all 05-12-08 12:54 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by King_Aphilly
lol @ at how the only thing this faggot can find to diss on me is for having a kid??? really? thats it? I just got another job offering to work at Coke dude. seriously i can get a job at any high paying place in the city that i work at. I actually turn jobs down. Like i said, keep goin to school for a pointless ass degree that will never get you anywere. You make 3000 over the summer and in the span of three months?? I make that IN a month. fuck, now your just becoming a classic faggot

my point wasn't in comparing that to a full-time salary you idiot. i'm a full-time student, my point was that i'm working to pay for my education. $3,000 will pay for almost a full year of in-state tuition, and thats just in 3-months... that was in response to you basically first using the insult of me being broke because i'm in college THEN in your very next post accusing me of riding off of my parents' money. that doesn't make any sense.

and i wasn't "dissing" you for having a kid... i was pointing out that you considered college a waste of time because it is going to put me in debt, when you are about to have a kid that in the end is going to cost you wayyyyyyy more than my college degree is going to cost me... AND, having a child isn't an investment that in the end is going to pay itself off in career opportunities.

having a kid is a wonderful thing, don't get me wrong... i'm just saying that making the argument that i'm somehow wasting my money because i'm going to be in-debt after getting my college degree isn't a very solid argument to make when you're about to have a kid that is going to cost you MORE than my degree. better SPuL? :hump:

and "pointless ass degree that will never get you anywhere"????????????

ummmmmmmmm, okay. so you just claimed that with your (maybe, i'm not even sure) high school degree you are able to establish a solid future for you and your child working at various businesses. so, when i have that degree PLUS another one, i'm somehow not going to be able to establish that "solid" future that you have? that argument is weak, it doesn't make any sense. look, you might not realize it because you're so young, but advancing in ANY career becomes extreeeeeeeemely difficult without a college degree of some kind, it is a requirement for most advancements... ESPECIALLY in the business world.

Adam 05-12-08 01:13 AM

I knew you wouldn't have a rebuttal for my post.

Blay'all 05-12-08 01:20 AM

^ sorry, i didn't even see it until just now.

when i said "your views on this issue are tainted by..." that wasn't talking down or insulting your point of view at all. that is expressing that it is MY opinion (as well as most scholars on Marxism) that the hegemonic (or dominant) society in which someone lives taints the way in which they view issues and what they assume to be the "natural" way to think. that was all i was saying. that wasn't me trying to talk down your opinion or anything, i think you misunderstood me... that was me expressing MY opinion.

La Cosa Nostra 05-12-08 01:28 AM

the world is a beurocratic asshole..

blay your right, however you look at this from the perspective of someone who will be successful due to schooling...

i got a friend who did a network admin course at a local education institute much like your community colleges.. he now earns around 7 to 8 grand a week, sometimes more through running his own IT business. the course cost $3200 this is quite similar to what im doing.


thats easily a good future for your family.. not to mention with that sort of money it opens doors to making a lot more through the right avenues.

its funny blay, after 12 months study.. i can probably earn a hell of a lot more than most university students busting their ass for years.

ill also have no debt..


and shit im glad ive had a few years swinging hammer and rapping, living life in the fast lane with absolutly no schooling obligations...... its been good.. and it also hasnt effected my ability to get a career and earn a lot of money....


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