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Old 05-08-08, 02:29 AM   #1
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Are we really all the same?

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I have no intentions of anything being racist or harmful to any culture in this thread so don't come in here with some whining race card bullshit or unthoughtful responses.

This is assuming all races and cultures have existed on Earth for essentially the same amount of time.

Why is it that the Caucasian race was the first to really advance technologically with the creation of better weapons, boats, wagons, etc.?

Why wasn't it the African race? Or the Native American race?

Was it due to location and material possibility? See, I assume that North America would have had the best resources for everything, but the Native American's were slaughtered once the Brit's came across the pond.

So I was thinking..

Is each race born with a different drive/desire in life?
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Old 05-08-08, 02:32 AM   #2
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Old 05-08-08, 02:45 AM   #3
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i watched a thing on the history channel about it, in the beggining they said it was because location..whoever had the better crops and bigger food supplie could advance more quickly.(in the very beggining) i cant elaborate cuz i dont really remember but i remember them saying that..
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OH MY GOD YOU RACIST FUCK

how dare you make out..............oh who the fuck am i kidding


this is a pretty heavy debate, theres an insane amount of aspects and contributing factors playing a hand here.

at first glance you do have a point. and to an extent the argument of whether were all the same is easily rejected due to the fact that all our civilisations and ansestory paths have been different.

but the real argument or analogy would become, if other races were put in the situations that our white race had been put through, wouldnt they then have developed the same characteristics that we did to become what we are?

if the english race developed on a small island in the pacific near the equator, over thousands of years would the end result mean the english race would be black? or atleast far darker?

are you a supporter of the evolution theory? because this also plays a massive part in determining the conclusion to this thread.
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i watched a thing on the history channel about it, in the beggining they said it was because location..whoever had the better crops and bigger food supplie could advance more quickly.(in the very beggining) i cant elaborate cuz i dont really remember but i remember them saying that..

i would equate things more like...


who gets in more wars and forces their civilisations to develop new technology to stay ahead of their enemies..
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^^^^i agree, i was just saying in the very beginning..they said the lands that had the advantages were europe the middle east and the top half of africa..
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OH MY GOD YOU RACIST FUCK

how dare you make out..............oh who the fuck am i kidding


this is a pretty heavy debate, theres an insane amount of aspects and contributing factors playing a hand here.

at first glance you do have a point. and to an extent the argument of whether were all the same is easily rejected due to the fact that all our civilisations and ansestory paths have been different.

but the real argument or analogy would become, if other races were put in the situations that our white race had been put through, wouldnt they then have developed the same characteristics that we did to become what we are?

if the english race developed on a small island in the pacific near the equator, over thousands of years would the end result mean the english race would be black? or atleast far darker?


are you a supporter of the evolution theory? because this also plays a massive part in determining the conclusion to this thread.


That's a good call. It's just always confused the shit out of me that for some reason the Caucasian race turned out to be so much more powerful than every other race and never understood why. I guess that it's a good question to think about if the Native American's were situated where Europe was and the Brits started in North America if the same shit would have happened. Shit is fucked up..

As for evolution, I'm open to everything except the beliefs of fundamental Christians.
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Old 05-08-08, 05:12 AM   #10
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you can call me stupid and wrong for giving my opinion on this thread, because other people always misunderstand what I have to say anyway, but did it ever cross your mind that tribes of black people/tribes of asian people/tribes of white people set themselves up differently to handle life and because of their ways of setting up their ways of life, that determined how much they could get from their land and people, which helped determine where they actually stood on the grounds of power in comparison to other races?

Afterall for many years Africa was ruled by Kings. Asia was ruled by Emperors, and most of the white nations were full of Dukes, & Kings, with an occasional democracy here and there.
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Old 05-08-08, 05:18 AM   #11
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see, what you're failing to realize is how tainted your point of view is. it hasn't ALWAYS been the way it is today. take the world back 200 years and Africa is a flourishing land with a society just as advanced as European society. it wasn't until European colonization of Africa that shit started getting fucked up, do your research...

what i'm saying is, you're asking this question from the point of view of someone living in 2008, but you aren't applying modern events or circumstances in order to come to your conclusions. you're assuming that the way it is now is the way it has always been due to some kind of natural process that occurred way back. but the truth is, the world only became like how it is now recently.
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Old 05-08-08, 05:20 AM   #12
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*smacks the fuck out of you*

retard. We based our current democracy on a system thousands of years ago. THAT'S THE OLD WORLD.

Africa SOLD US PEOPLE before 200 years ago, OF COURSE THEY GOT RICH.

Do you not THINK I could EVER say ANYTHING that applies so you just ASSUME everything I FUCKING SAY is wrong?

USE YOUR MOTHER FUCKING BRAIN YOU FUCKING ILLITERATE, CRUDELY TAUGHT ASSHOLE.
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who the fuck are you talking to? first of all, i wasn't even addressing you or else i would have quoted you, i was addressing the creator of this thread, so the whole "do you just assume everything i say is wrong" thing is irrelevant.

actually, your whole post is irrelevant. wtf does the fact that we BASED our democratic government on the past have anything to do with the fact that the slave trade is what fucked up Africa, not the fact that they are black? lol, i don't know what issues you're discussing, but i'm addressing the ones that the creator of this thread brought up.

i wasn't arguing that history should be ignored or that we should assume that we invented democracy. i just really don't see your point at all.
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"wtf does the fact that we BASED our democratic government on the past have anything to do with the fact that the slave trade is what fucked up Africa, not the fact that they are black?"

First of all, we're based on a democratic government which was originated by white people long ago. We bought the slaves because they were black, no other reason, and considered them without souls anyway, the slave trade is what HELPED Africa because their Kings were poor before our money bought their people.

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They harvested their own people to sell, we, as white men, bought them. That's what it has to do with each other.

The actual answer I gave was that our societies of skin colors were built completely differently. Thus that had a lot to do with how they built over time.
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the slave trade is what helped africa? are you kidding.
as if they were poor or something, you know they have the most gold,ruby,diamond,silver,ect....than any other country... every surrounding nation has always kept them in a state of poverty amungst different tribes and geurilla groups to extract all that stuff from the country..thats where aids comes in and the weapons contracts, the blood diamond trade ect...
HELPED africa...wow, way to much bill oreilly...
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