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To I.G., Enygma, and anyone else who's military...
Can your commanders legally order you to your death? I'm not talking about sending you on a mission that could POSSIBLY cause your death. I mean, are they authorized to literally order you to do something that's 100% likely to cause your death? And, if they can, can you refuse to do it?
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give a situation and I can tell you...cuz the question is rather vague what brought this on?... |
^^^^The question was posed to those two because they're in the military.
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they cant MAKE you do anything...if u really dont wanna do it that bad...but theyll prolly kick your ass out the army...
getting kicked out the army > death |
dude, I was in the ARMY too lol you gotta be more specific than this Mikey ;) |
The question isn't vague. I asked could they order you to do a suicide mission. That's a pretty darn clear question to me. I don't know an exact mission. The question is, is it LAWFUL for a commander to order you to your death?
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they're not gonna like order you to go step on a mine and kick you out if you don't, if you mean something like that then nah they can't do that |
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That isn't really answerin my question. And, when were you in the military, and for how long? Did you serve anywhere? What was your job? |
fuck the army....
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was in for a year, so basically I was just in BCT then AIT my MOS was 45G (fire control repair) which consisted of removing, replacing, and repairing circuit cards in laser-guided tank components my BCT was at Ft. Leonardwood, Misourri AIT was Aberdeen Proving Grounds, Maryland (near Baltimore) and if I'd stayed in my duty station would've been Fort Campbell, Kentucky what brought you to ask this question?...and it does seem vague to me = | I answered it as best I could from the question you asked |
The question is not vague. But, I'll rephrase it for the people I intended to answer it. Does the military have the legal right to order a soldier to do a suicide mission? And, I'm not referring to a hypothetical suicide mission. I'm talking one where death is certain.
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damn thats crazy...u shoulda stayed n shit for real....*goes to fort campbell's PX all the time*.......yea i live in Clarksville, TN....theyre basically the same damn place lol...i can drive to base in like....15 minutes...crazy |
mostly special ops people do all those classified missions with extra high risks, you sign up for that and know the risks when you get in there but generally, if you follow orders and do what you're told you'll be okay...the risks are lined out to them before they go on a mission like that but those people are usually gung-ho and don't turn down missions like that but in general...no, they can't put just the average soldier on a high risk mission...besides, if death is "guarunteed" you won't be doing whatever "it" happens to be |
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You made sense up to the last sentence. Japanese used Kami Kazi pilots during WW2. So, purposely flying planes into objects would be doing "it" if that was the mission. I'll wait for another opinion because my question still wasn't answered. Is it within the military's legal rights to plan suicide missions for soldiers? And, I'll even add this. Would the U.S. ever resort to Kami Kazi type tactics in war? Special Ops is hypothetical danger. That's exactly what I WASN'T referring to. hmm |
lmfao...thats japan though....
theyre stupid for doing that shit....we would never send a mofo in on a plane to blow up a boat or some shit |
as far as I know, no...they can't knowingly endanger you to the extent of suicide missions...American life is much too valuable for the military to start doing suicide missions in that reguard...high risk, yes but suicide missions, no...that isn't sanctioned by the U.S. government |
Yes, your commanding officer can legally order you to death, unless you order him to his first.
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it's spelled "kamikaze"....and no wonder they're known for it...they STARTED it in WW2...hence the japanese name
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Why, thank you Websters. Speaking of Japanese names, my ex best friend was named Kamika. wow...She was a suicide bomber :shoot: |
lol...she definitely was
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Ok....I just got on so I'll answer this the best way I know how.
Yes, your commanding officer can order you to do whatever the hell he feels like doing. However, you can refuse a lawful order that is immoral. How to determine if an order is unlawful is a hard task. If you obey an immoral, lawful order you are subject to the consequences of your actions as well as your commander. For example......your commander says "Hey PVT Fuckup, go in there and kill all those nigger babies cause I hate their black skin." Now, this is a lawful order, but as you can clearly see, this is very immoral. He is basing his whole reason for you killing people on his hate for a certain race. If you carry out this order, you are held liable. If you refuse this order, you will get shit from your commander for the rest of the time you are in his or her command. Basically, if you are told to do something that is morally wrong, you are in a lose/lose situation. I'm guessing that this would fall into the catagory you were asking about. It is morally wrong to order someone to their undeniable death unless they will undeniably die anyway. If you are put in front of a firing squad and your commander chooses you to make a distraction for the rest of the unit to escape, then he is doing his job to save lives..... So basically, you have to read each situation differently. If you are ordered to do a kamikaze mission or a suicide bomber mission, you can legelly refuse, but you will still be under the same superiors for a while.....so it basically sucks ass :thumbup:™ |
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they should let arabs have ppl like you LOL |
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