Why can't most people see that they are being enslaved mentally?
 

Talking about gay-hate/bashing specifically...

I've read where people said, "I don't have a problem with gays. I'm not a bigot." And, yet, their actions speak otherwise. Why can't they see that they have been indoctrinated from birth to look down upon gay people and to hate them?

If someone told me, "Mike, red ants will bite you and cause you to swell up because they are poisonous," I'll think that until I'm taught otherwise. Everytime I see a red ant, I'll fear it, and hate it, and speak badly of it. It's no different with gay people and other issues that people are ignorant of. Why do gay people, including myself, receive so much hate? It's because people are taught to hate us. People are taught that gay people are "inferior" to them, and somehow "sick" and "perverted". It's deep-seated in people's minds.

UNLEARN what you have LEARNED people.

You don't even realize that you think the way you do because it's been embedded in your subconscious.

Get to know someone before you make a judgment. And, no, the internet is not "getting to know someone." You'd be amazed how similar people are. We all have the same fears, the same experiences. Come on people. Why perpetuate this barrier/rift?





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.............What the FUCK are you talking about............

why the fuck are you here again? LEAVE

Really its the same as any other mental conditioning that people in this society receive.

People look for groups. They categorize eachother, and anybody different (there are a lot of degrees of difference, but sexuality is, from what I have seen, a primary one) is alienated / looked down upon.

Do they want to realize it? Of course they dont. Ignorance is bliss in this world, people dont realize that their whole lives are more or less fallacies. I'll admit that I even look down on gays and even some races. It's subconcious, I can't do anything about it. Im not racist in actions or speech, but deep down I DO differentiate and react differently to certain situations based on the race and sexuality of those involved. The difference is that I actually realize i'm doing it, and look at it from an external point of view. Others? They are fully immersed in it and unaware. And they love it.

But, that's no justification for it. And, anything you can learn, you can UNLEARN and replace with a more accepting and tolerant truth.






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I dont think i'm quite at a high enough level mentally to control my subconcious mind. Through conditioning a lot of things, including the things you're talking about, become instinctive, but I am working on it.

There are ways to do it. I've become good at conditioning my mind. It's part of psychokinesis.

It's also the basic principle of, "As a man thinks in his heart, so is he."


Well, yea...way more to it...But, it works. I'm also working on it as well.





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I hate when people do this shit. Basically we cant believe anything is wrong or right. Aren't you being a slave to logic? The same society that has enslaved some people to think the way they do made you think the way you do. B Everyone is taught something and you were taught what you're doing isnt wrong. How do we know murder or any other type of "wrong" that we're taught is actually wrong. There's reasons why people have been 'enslaved' to dislike gays in the 1st place. If we apply this to anything, we shouldn't even listen to you. I actually don't like gays, not the people, mainly the attribute. I just don't like feminine men, even if they don't act like a girl, liking men to ME is seen as wrong. The same way I have been raised to dislike them, is the same way you were raised NOT to dislike them. You can never escape influence, cause as long as you're here in this world you're always gonna be influenced. Something has influenced you to be so called "freed" from the slave mentality, when in reality you're just a "slave" to a different owner. Shit, we might as well not move or eat, and just sit there and die. Cause we might become slaves to food and air. IN MY OPINION!!!! PLEASE DO NOT ARGUE. It's just how I see it.

Rofl @ mimesis's post that he deleted. Ill, back of the bus. Classic.

1st off, I know feminine men who are heterosexual. And, liking men doesn't make a man effeminate.


2nd, I'm talking about stereotypes bro, not what's "right" or "wrong". I'm saying that people are ingrained to think gays are inferior to them. That affects the way people view gays and lesbians. And, I feel that is wrong because it doesn't allow you to get to know an individual without bias. That's what I'm talking about.




And, when you become self-aware, that's when you can change your way of thinking. Part of growing mentally is literally unlearning many of the lies we're taught growing up, not only about other cultures, but about ourselves.




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Yeah I definetly feel you. I know people are different and alike in many ways and stereotypes shouldn't be used to judge. I apologize, I get what you're saying now. Muh bad :( I just got the wrong idea when you said unlearn everything.

More then just subconsciously, gays seen as inferior is instinctual. Basically, if you're gay you can't reproduce and carry on the species. So basically, if you can train yourself to ignore other instinctual urges and shit, like the need for food three times a day or something, you should be able to look past homosexuality on the instinctual level. On a subconscious level though, people just have to learn to analyze themselves and see that they are doing something and it is for a certain reason. Most people are scared to do that though. I know for a fact that when I was at Disneyland with my uncle this weekend, (who is gay) I felt more uncomfortable sitting next to him than anyone else and I know it's subconscious. I couldn't help it at the time, it takes training of the mind, but really, how many people out there based off of the average person in the world, would actually take the time to do that?

You kind of answered your own question in this thread btw.

i dont hate people if there gay i just hate gays.....like if a person is gay i dont hate him...i hate the fact that he's gay cuz thats fuckin sick and against nature but i wont think anything diffrent of him as i would with anybody else i talk to...if he's gay to where he's talkin like a fuckin woman i'll bitchslap that sickfuck and make him aware that he's actually a guy gay or not....lol but otherwise if u gay and sound straight i dont care as long as u aint fuckin hitting on me cuz i'll hit on you (with my fists)

You can't say that you would treat someone who possesses a quality you hate the same as someone who doesn't. That's really fucking illogical.

depends on what it is that i hate...if the sumthin i hate is in my face constantly or where i have ta deal with it like almost everytime i come across it i'll never be able ta deal wit it, but if it like doesnt come out to where i almost dont notice...like if a gay guy just acts like a normal person and doesnt do anything ta remind me then yes i can bare the fact that they have sumthin i hate

how does that not sound logical??

Because you don't treat them the same. If they say something that reminds you of something gay, you're going to treat them differently than you would with someone who's not gay. And even if you think you're treating them the same, you really aren't, you'll subconsciously (like Q was saying) treat them differently, whether noticeably or not is subjective.

i feal like this in a way
you could apply this to people who are starving them selfs and to people who are parinoid pyschos

^^I don't quite get this.















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It doesn't sound logical because people are different, with a wide variety of personality types. Therefore, every gay person is different, and acts differently. How can you judge someone based strictly on their orientation? Two people can act just the same, but, if one person is gay and does it, that makes it unacceptable to you?

With all honesty Q...real talk...i dont think being gay is right and all...but I dont knock it if you are or who ever...I have no reason to point a finger at anyone because of that....and I dont think that being gay changes anything about anyone...if you are you are....the word keeps going whether you are or not....people get to focus in other people's shit and should really worry about there own...thats the way i see it....

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Q.. For fuck sake man..

The straight up fact is..

Faggots do things that normal people think is disgusting and wrong.. So there will always be prejudice....

Learn to fucking live with it and stop shoving your faggotness down everyone elses throat you fucktard...

Lmao Nos's political incorrectness is actually refreshing when it's not directed at my race and promoting white superemacy.

i treat people equal no matter if they diffrent or not so why are ya'll sayin its wrong for me ta treat people equal if they diffrent...i think that be racism...im sayin i'll treat a gay person equal to anybody else but if they hit on me or act girly or do anything else that anybody else would do or act ta piss me off then id treat them the same way as i would treat a straight person that pissed me off...if a gay person is cool im gon act cool wit him just like how i would wit a stright guy....i aint gon bash his head in just cuz he's gay..but ya'll makin it look like if a gay guy is gay then i should treat him diffrently and this is comin from Q himself.....

ya'll sayin even if i hate homos i should automatically start shit wit somebody like Q personally because he's gay......which isnt the case like i said equal respect...i aint gon hate the person because he's gay..thats his decision or what he's born wit whatever...but it just grosses me out thats all

my bad for the double post people, but, this i-net is acting retarded.







EDIT: Why waste the post? I'll reiterate my main point here.

Whether you know it or not, your thinking/beliefs regarding sexual orientation is influenced by how you were raised and taught. This is true whether you're aware of it or not. If something is ingrained in your head from childhood, which hatred and intolerance of other cultures like homosexuality is, then, it'll effect your thinking, regardless of whether or not what you're taught is true. I'm challenging everyone to subvert the lies, at least challenge them. Get to know individuals before you judge them. And, don't judge someone based on superficial qualitied. You'll be sorely disappointed if you find out your judgment of them was incorrect, based on what you THINK YOU KNOW about certain cultures and how the "are".


Bias and bigotry are wack.



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^^And, I'm telling you that it's unlikely that you treat people equally when you think subconsciously you're superior to them.







Again, this isn't a matter of whether being gay or str8 is right or wrong. This is about treating INDIVIDUALS differently because of an inherent and ingrained belief that heterosexuals are superior to gay people. I'm saying it's wrong to not consider individual differences because of those biases. People have been taught these things, whether blatantly or subconsciously.





Yep, it really is refreshing to see someone make ignorant comments about another culture, esp. if you're not involved.


:huh:


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how the fuck is sucking dick a culture? How the fuck is taking another mans dick up your ass a culture?

Culture; the act of developing the intellectual and moral faculties especially by education

Your in here tryna justify your actions constantly , I seriously think you feel bad in gods eyes for you dick sucking,asshole fucking problems.

You claim people are disciminating against you, grow a fucking head on yoru shoulders and get ove rit you whining little girl., Basically people get fed up when you speak about things that heterosexuals find disgusting. Based on this site only, you post pictures of gay sex.
Then you expect respect for your sexuality, kid you have no idea. I pitty your parants.

Yo Q..............Serious question..

Do you ask god for forgiveness every time you suck a cock..?

Lmaomalmfaom. I didn't want to catch heat and get called a racist, even though my intentions weren't meant for that. You know you thought that was dope though.

Lmao. Game ovaaaaaaaaa.