God is good
 

Period.














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If God is so good, and we are made in his image, then why do humans have a good and bad side?

Because God's image means being of free will...

Except, there is no evil in him...

God can not lie...

God can not sin because there's no sin in him

Sin in the world is a perversion of what God has ordained...

Satan is God's arch enemy...We are just caught in the middle.





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Okay, you never explained why God's right hand angel would rebel against an all-knowing, all-good being for no reason. God had to have done something Satan disagreed with. So then, Satan suddenly becames all evil and horrible for no reason, and then accepts castaway souls from God and tortures them for no reason?

God's image isn't free will. You call 'follow me and live in eternal happiness, disobey me and burn for eternity' God's idea of giving humans the right to choose what path they want to take? It's like saying 'sure, you could go out with your boyfriend, but if you do, I'll kill your dog'.

Ok, Satan turned on God because he was jealous of him, in traditional views that is. And as far as I know, Satan doesn't torture anyone in hell, he just rules over it because he's the most powerful. If Satan didn't exist, people in hell would still be tortured, get it?

Also, God gives you the choice to choose how you want to live, the consequences aren't up to you, the choices are. If you live how you want to live and think you're living a good life, but all the time ignoring and disobeying God, that's on you, he gave you the ability to make that decision, that doesn't mean he condones it.

What do you think God is? What do you think free will is? God loves Satan, so why shouldn't you?

Well this post is just compleatly pathetic......

How do YOU know god has no evil in him? He DID create the concept of evil...

And sin? Pshhh.. What the fuck is sin anyway... Right and wrong is a mindframe dude..... Free your mind..........

the whole bible is a metaphor not to be taken literal... so actually believin in a heaven or hell makes u look retarded... its just stories to get you in a mind frame the ppl who wrote it want u to be in to make us more manigable

Fucking jews........

i dont believe in god, heaven, hell, devil, religions, destiny/fate, the supernatural, none of that...i mean if god exists then why aint one single prayor been answered?? and people claim they talked to god but why dont god talk back??? have u ever had a 2 way conversation wit god himself??? people say u dont need proof that u just need faith...well i had faith in santa clause bringing me toys every christmas..we all know the truth there..if there aint fact it aint there...and the bible is just a book thats probably only 90% accurate from being translated so many times...and why theres so many religions???? theres only one truth if theres truth in it at all...we cant just make up a religion then hope it exists because of that...religion kept people in line but thats it..there actually IS NO GOD...

Since when is god a person that even speaks? People misunderstand...

God can't possibly be somewhere, because he is everywhere.

lol.....@ jews......word Nos...word...

That is complete bullshit. Just admit it's retarded. THERE IS NO CHOICE. That whole thing is an idiotic illusion. It's the same as saying you'll cut off your daughter's leg if she goes out with her boyfriend, but she can still go out if she wants. Wow, free will is such a nice concept.

It's almost the same thing as saying Jesus died on the cross for our sins. Jesus died on the cross because his teachings went against the Romans.

Well if you knew better than your daughter, then it would make sense right? If you knew that by going out with some dude your daughter would turn out fucked up, it's just like telling her it's a bad idea without forcing her to bend to your will. And it's not like God is just torturing everyone who disobeys him, he just doesn't reward you for it. If the only choices are heaven and hell, that's how you have to see it. Not to mention that hell doesn't even have to be torture, if you found out that God existed, didn't love you and would not let you into heaven, then had to cope with that stress for the rest of eternity, THAT in and of itself would be "torture" enough. Only thing is, that's not torture, it's just not being rewarded either.

lmfao @ comparing God to Santa Claus. You are officially a retard.

Because you THINK you know better than your daughter, you should cut off her leg if she makes her own decision?



Uhm, if you don't believe in God, which is the only unforgivable sin (besides, I suppose, suicide), then that is your personal choice. There is no empirical proof, it is only 'believe in me because I say so, and if you don't, I won't love you'. It's more like you not knowing the boyfriend at all, but saying you'll cut off your daughter's leg anyway.



Mhm...disobey God...don't believe because there is no proof..go to hell...get tortured. Isn't that basically the reason 90% of people are christian? And uhm, in the next post you say even if hell doesn't have torture, knowledge of God isn't enough.



Not really. I don't fret over bullshit that won't be changed, so I'd just learn how to meditate or make myself go insane.



Basic human emotions and not believing in something because there is no proof is NOT similiar to an abusive boyfriend. And you're saying someone is stupid because they compared Santa to God, which is as good a metaphor as any?

I'm going to be 100% honest right now, you can take it however you want but I don't care.

You are trying to convince yourself that you're right, and I can't even carry on this argument because you are so stupid it makes it impossible for you to step OUTSIDE the box. I know I'm probably wrong for this, but ok, you don't believe in God, fucking cool, you're such a rebel. When the time comes and you find out what the fuck is up, you will have quite a long time to dwell on why you were wrong, so I won't even waste my time in the physical form explaining this to you.

you learn what u can about religion and make your own decision and respect everyones decision... if everyone did that then it wouldn't matter because heaven would be on earth and not a misterious place some people believe in and others don't. to me the bible was writen by smart people that wanted to make life the best it could be for them, so they made up rules that if everyone followed they'd expect life to be heaven on earth, but now with all the different religions and view points thats not possible so everyone just needs to respect everyones religions and view points and everyone can have their own heavens on earth... cuz honestly if theres no facts on anything and no solid answers its just opinion anyway and u can't get mad over an opinion

maybe the original copy of the bible was on some ill shit but its proven that its been changed so to believe in it with out any questions is moronic to me. but word the idea of god is good... even if no one really knows what god is or if there is one

well i come from a culture that has no hell or heaven, so the idea of "good"
is a little more flexible, tho in relation to this topic...one of our main ideologies
is the concept of duality, for us creation started with the void, commonly
interpreted as "absolute nothingness" even to name it is somewhat ironic
as it doesnt exist...but heres where it relates to this topic...in order for the
the void to be recognized the second stanza of creation for us is the darkness
or Night...with this established it is now duality ...which creates the third stanza
the "light"...now hypothetically most of you shoud see the realation to God,
if not...God would not exist without the devil...they are one...he is evil because
if god did not exist their would be no evil...while if their was no devil their
would be no good...it is their duality which is the conception of both...

Okay, here's what i believe

The bible is a book of fairy tales, thats all they are...it's a book written by someone long before our time to try to convince people that they're way was the right way and if you dont believe that then your going to burn in the fiery pits of hell....well fuck that scientific evidence proves the theory of evolution, big bang happened....you really think someone got swallowed by a whale and survive to tell the tale.....do you believe that it was possible to put 2 of every species of every animal on the earth in a damn boat? no, the bible is lies so why would anyone believe in a religion that so fucking ludicrous?

^^structure , format , a plan, morals, knowing that when you die its not the end,
fear, comfort, conviniance, lifestyle, evolution has not been proved, it is still a
theory...just of the top

Evolution is more sensible than saying "Some guy created everything and nothing ever evolves" bible-bs

^^not sayin its not sensible...just hasnt been proved ...

for every action there is an equal and opposite reaction- obviously enstien... and i find what u say very interesting... your sayin that we reasoned ourselves into existance... like how a kid can keep sayin why? why? why? why? your sayin why is there nothin because its black, why is it black, because its not light? why because black is bad and light is good, why? because black is the devil and light is god.. why? well just because damn it

Evolution is basically fact, be serious with yourself. The Big Bang Theory still has holes in it, but evolution has occurred over time.

Lmao. You say I don't think outside the box because I don't feed my weak little existence with the ridiculous thought of free will? You seriously think God gives a choice to be good and evil, but with this choice, if we choose not to be good, then we will be tortured for eternity in the fiery pits of Hell. Mhm, yeah, I'm loving that free will.

How does God know what's better for us? If he's so all-knowing, why does he push himself upon other people, since humans think that people should be allowed to have their own opinion? So you're saying God is a tyrant who casts people into oblivion when they make their own life choices --- but wait, you have a choice, because you can choose to go into that oblivion! Great, what a sympathetic person. No wonder he turns people into pillars of salt.



You're fucking retarded, and don't belong in any debate. Get the fuck out of Cerebral Approach if your retarded ass is going to say I'm not open-minded, and then proceed to act like you win because 'in the end your religion will be correct and I will be punished'.

How am I the one not thinking outside the box when you believe one religion over a thousand others for no reason other than because it says to? And you believe in stupid contradictory philosophies because YOU can't think outside the box of what you've been taught.

And you shouldn't say evolution hasn't been proven when you don't know the half of it.



...What? Fear, comfort, convenience, and lifestyle have not been proven?

to lex and mimesis... ...i was replying to that^^ the ludicrous part
and yes evolution does make sense to me mimesis, but its not
fact it is still a theory...here is my actual reply to this thread...

well i come from a culture that has no hell or heaven, so the idea of "good"
is a little more flexible, tho in relation to this topic...one of our main ideologies
is the concept of duality, for us creation started with the void, commonly
interpreted as "absolute nothingness" even to name it is somewhat ironic
as it doesnt exist...but heres where it relates to this topic...in order for the
the void to be recognized the second stanza of creation for us is the darkness
or Night...with this established it is now duality ...which creates the third stanza
the "light"...now hypothetically most of you shoud see the realation to God,
if not...God would not exist without the devil...they are one...he is evil because
if god did not exist their would be no evil...while if their was no devil their
would be no good...it is their duality which is the conception of both...

Macro evolution is a theory because no one has lived long enough to watch a species evolve.

If any religion in the world is right it would be Buddhism it is the closes to perfect harmony then any religion, unlike christianity that has "televangelists" that solicit you for money to help "the church" christianity is a joke

Buddhism isn't much of a religion. More of a philosophy.