And Dabatos..... most guys have a more open mind to hip hop and listen to both mainstream and lyrical shit..... I only know one girl that likes underground more than mainstream (thats not on this site) ....... like, i know many guys who enjoy 50. admit his lyrics arent that great, and like people like talib also... dependin on their mood.......

but im not hatin on women by sayin that most of em just like to dance and want sumthin they can do that tooo..... they can take watever they want from music

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