i never saw Saw I, but Saw II was real cool to me...... somehow i amazingly guessed where the son was gonna be in the first 20-30 minutes (it was more of a joke i sed to a friend after one comment the villain made, but ill take credit anyways) but the movie had alotta twists and turns to keep u guessing, and make the viewer think just as hard as the characters in the movie are.......

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