Bonds probably was juicin before 2002 if u look at when he started hitting homeruns and his size got so massive...... im sure some of u know that until Bonds got a few years into the majors, that he was NEVER a homerun hitter..... he never even led his own team in homeruns until he joined the MLB which is extemely suspicious.... he was a always a basehitter.... and a great one at that, but we're not dealin with if he would still be in the hall of fame if he juiced or not...... we're only dealing with whether he juiced or not (which in my mind happened beyond a doubt) and if he did, should his record count.......

which should be hell fuckin no....... unless u wanna do some asterik shit..... which they prolly will do even if it is never actually proven he used steroids (which i agree, would be a shame)

and to NK..... Ruth was subject to the times he lived in.... it is not his fault that he never faced any black or hispanic pitchers... however, taking steroids is a choice.... u cant blame ruth for sumthin that he had almost no control over.....

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