FUcking starting it..... its so hard for me to create the first 4 or so bars of a song..... especially wen its not some type of club song.....

how do u people approach the first bars of a song....? im askin audio heads here

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Normally I go for starting a chorus... because it's the most simple portion in the track, but one of the most important.

Then, just listen to the beat and write whatever comes to your head at a given point. You don't necessarily have to write the bars in order from first to last (16), the first bars I write down normally go in the middle of my first verse or a few bars after the first one.

Like say you got 16 bars to write. The first thing you write might not be your opening bars. At least for me it rarely is. I'm used to makin a lil' "entrance" to the first bar instead of just waiting for the beat to come in.

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Thats most proberly the easiest part for me. I love to write, so when Im bout to sit down and write somthing, I obviously have the concept in my head, so the start is proberly the best.

My problem is while Im writing on songs Ill get another concept i my head, which makes me start rushing the song im writing to get onto the new concept.

But ive recently learnt to jot concepts down on paper so I can allways come back and write them.

That hardest part for me is production. Spitting is easy,writing is fun. production is fun but when your currently un educated in production it can get frustraiting.

ayo fiya, if your working tonight ill give you a call from NZ. worlwide exlusive

co-sign.... I always write to a beat, and the first thing I work on is the hook. The beat gives you the feel of the track and what kind of mood it puts you in. From there I get the feel of the track, get the hook down, and it usually will give me the feel of the rest of the track. word.

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I have the same exact problem, I can only do dissin raps, I keep fuckin up makin normal ones.

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it depends for me if its deep i will write a story about what will happen(e.g. th plot)then put it in perspective to the beat n make it rhyme n shit if its self -gllorifiying,fuck haters,general shit i jus start on a hook lol

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i agree 100% with you fux
the first couple lines really get me thinkin, but after that its all str8..
i usually just start out with some simpler lines and take it from there though.

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yea i kno wutchu mean fux, but for me its jus the first 2 bars or so of a verse

Man...... All you need is inspiration...

Get a friggen opinion and start making songs for a cause rather than just for the sake of writing rhymes.. When I write, I write because theres something I wanna get off my chest, or something I want to get accross to people.. Or I'll just be in the mood to write a party track thats uplifting to people that hear it.

If your a real rap artist these things should come easy to you because you should always have something you want to express in your music. Try and take a more hungry stance towards learning. Read books and gain opinions on a large range of issues... That will automatically spark the interlect and give you new ideas to begin basing your work on.... Eventually, you'll end up having too much to write about and you'll be in the position where you actually are able to call yourself a rap artist as opposed to just rapping because you wanna be cool, or because you like rhyming or w/e pseudo artistic reason you like rapping..

Think about it.

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it depends on my mood... i used to do all da hooks for my crew... shyt just came easy for some reason.. nowadays the hook is a lot harder cuz i wanna move from da traditional "rap" hook to more of a song styled hook... i usually just let the beat dictate what i write... lots of times i'm just bullshittin' around and then i'll spit some shyt and be like... "whoa!!!! i gotta write that one down!" ... just reading some of da bullshyt in the diss the person thread can get me hype sometimes...lol... and yes... i still OWN THAT THREAD...lol... inspiration can come from anywhere, man... don't limit yaself... look around you... family... a tv show... a recent event... books... relationships... hell, i even wrote a rhyme about oatmeal once... *will be recording that as soon as i find the right beat!...lol*

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He wanted advice... I gave him advice.

Its not down talking at all. Hell, even a lot of rappers that have deals and go big time aint real artists....... Your acting like I told him to quit...

I told him to take a more thirsty approach towards learning and the opinions you'll gain will give you a much broarder topic range. Therefore making what he finds hard, suddenly become easy.

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