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Old 01-21-06, 08:55 PM   #1
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Jay-Z's protege Memphis Bleek has something to say about the rising beef between Def Jam President Jay-Z and Diplomat's Leader Cam'ron.

Yo, he got some real fucken nerve to call anyone else, including Jay, a Swagger Jacker. Especailly Jay when he totally jacks Jay's "Show you how to do this son" song, not only once, but twice. Not to mention on his "Hate Me Now" diss to Nas he uses the "LAME" sample from Jay's "The Takeover". So I'm gonna try to break down all the times he has jacked people that I could remember. :

"You Would to, if you knew, what this game would do to you,
been in this shit, 2 years boo, look at all the bullshit I been thru,
So called beef with you know who" - from "What Means the World" remix

^^^^^^Jacks B.I.G. from "Notorious Thugs"

How about the original "What Means the World" with the sound of the girl going "Owww"? Blatantly Jacked from a B.I.G. song? And that was basically the key to the hook of that song.

"Yo, your career's over like Mike,
any one, Tyson, Jordan, Jackson, Ask Dun" - From "Hate Me Know" diss at Nas

^^^^ Jacking B.I.G. from "Victory"

Then he goes and uses that exact same line again:

"Now, ni**as career over like mike,
any one, Tyson, Jordan, Jackson, it's over" - From "I Love You"

Once Again, Jacking the B.I.G. from "Victory". Talk about jacking, he jacked the same shit twice.

"You wack, You twisted, your girls a ho,
You broke, the kid ain't yours, and everybody know,
Ya mans even tell you, you be like 'So',
I love my baby mother, I never let her go" - From "Hate Me Now" diss to Nas

^^^^ There he is jacking DMX word for word

How about "Leave Me Alone(let me live my life)" from his "Come home with me" album. The entire song is a rip off of 2pac song.

"I be like Move bitch, Get out the way,
Cause I move bricks, get out the yay" - from "Leave Me Alone p.t.2"

^^^^^^Jacking Ludacris's "Move Bitch"

"There's a war going on outside, no one is a safe from,
It don't matter if you 3 feet or 8'1" - from "Welcome to New York City"

^jacked from prodigy - survival of the fittest


How about jacking the beat for his "Come Home With Me" song from Ghostface's "Bulletproof Wallets" album? Shit is the exact same beat.

And now we come to the biggest one. The one that baffles me. His crew, his team, his entire movements anthem "Dipset Anthem" is the biggest jackers of beats all times.....

"Today's a New Day, got the boola, up in the suitcase,
Go up town to Harlem, tell em that I sent ya" - Juelz from "Dipset Anthem"

^^^^^^^ Jacking B.I.G.

"I see death around the corner, gotta stay high, will I survive?
in the city where the skinny ni**as die?" - Juelz from "Dipset Anthem"

^^^^^^ Jacking 2pac

"I stood alone, watching the wall in a zone,
hand on my handles, listening to gangsta music" - Chorus to "Dipset Anthem"

^^^^^ Jacking The Geto Boys "Mind Playing Tricks"

And it doesn't matter that Juelz is saying it, since as I said, this is the DIPSET Anthem. This is the song that represents them as a crew. And the while shit is a Jack move. And I am sure there are many more examples of him doing this shit.

cam also sampled jay z and Big voice off of a song of his second LP......s.d.e


cam also jacked
Real Niggas

got it from Mo Money Mo Homicide from AZ/Nas

Push It

got it from Salt n Pepper

Cam also bit this line of the song s.d.e.......

Yo, the rap game remind me of the crack game
Niggas wanna get they gun, then start the clap game

if i remember correctly, biggie or nas said that shit first ^^

He used that "careers over like Mike..." line in Juelz' "U Oughta Know" too


yo if cam has beef wit jay cuz he bites then why does he bite jay
Jay Z - yes yallin jiggaman be ballin

camron-yes yallin killa cam be ballin..

So you tell me, does Cam have any leg to stand on in the "Swagger Jacker" argument? Or did he just prove he is a hypocrite? Enough Said...

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Old 01-21-06, 10:47 PM   #2
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lol @ two biters beefing calling each other biters.

Yay for rap
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Old 01-21-06, 11:14 PM   #3
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Fuck!! always new i heard that baby momma thing....and he stole that skinny niggas die thing, dumbass biters lol.
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Old 01-21-06, 11:26 PM   #4
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imma say the same thng about Cam as I said for Jay-z.
if you consider any of that shit "biting" then you're dumb as hell.
It's actually petty as fuck

that "show you hot to do this son" was a collab originally, i thought. But Cam's version wasn't even mainstream. Thats like sayin 2pac is a biter for biting Biggie's "Get Money" shit. Its NOT CONSIDERED biting.

That Survival of the fittest shit isnt biting
that "kIlla be ballin" shit aint biting.
wtf A nigga cant even say that he's ballin without it bein considered biting.
that Survival of the fittest shit is crazy.
Cos the 2nd line is totally different. Cam say it dont matter if you 3 feet orm 8 1" and Havoc say something different.
that Push it song isnt biting, omfg, thios shit is nuts. They paid for that, they didnt just use it out the blue.
that DMX said wasnt biting, wtf omg
anyone that considers that OBVIOUS AS SHIT biting dont know what biting is.
I think the only way a nigga thats mainstream can be considered biting is by biting concepts and not lines. Like if someone else make a song in rewind, then that will be biting Nas. Shit of that nature.
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If you do kegel excercises, you would be able to do something similar without having to hold your tip shut with your hand. After you've been doing them, hold off ejaculating as long as you can to really let the pressure build and then aim for your girlfriend's eye and let 'er rip.. You might get lucky and shoot her eye out. That's probably exaggerating it a bit, but it will still be hilarious
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Old 01-21-06, 11:38 PM   #5
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the dmx thing is biting, word for word and so is that were the skinny nigga die thing
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Old 01-21-06, 11:40 PM   #6
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If its biting, then how come DMX didnt sue him? apparently DMX didnt feel like he was biting.
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If you do kegel excercises, you would be able to do something similar without having to hold your tip shut with your hand. After you've been doing them, hold off ejaculating as long as you can to really let the pressure build and then aim for your girlfriend's eye and let 'er rip.. You might get lucky and shoot her eye out. That's probably exaggerating it a bit, but it will still be hilarious
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Old 01-21-06, 11:43 PM   #7
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yea doesnt surprise me that cam's biting.
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Old 01-21-06, 11:48 PM   #8
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smh
comin from a guy that has Paul Wall and Chamillionaire in their sig
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If its biting, then how come DMX didnt sue him? apparently DMX didnt feel like he was biting.


. You cant sue for biting 3 or 4 bars, if it was a entire track beat and lyrics, same name and claimed it as his original track, making roylatys of it then yes.

But you think DMX would be that petty to sue someone over 3 bars?
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ye,im not gona call cam a biter,cos i defended jay-z.

but for him to call jay a biter when hes done the exact same thing...lmfaoooooooooo...what a dumb fuck....
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. You cant sue for biting 3 or 4 bars, if it was a entire track beat and lyrics, same name and claimed it as his original track, making roylatys of it then yes.

But you think DMX would be that petty to sue someone over 3 bars?

do you think someone would be that petty to call someone a biter over 3 bars?
especially since its almost always atleast more than 32 bars every song?
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If you do kegel excercises, you would be able to do something similar without having to hold your tip shut with your hand. After you've been doing them, hold off ejaculating as long as you can to really let the pressure build and then aim for your girlfriend's eye and let 'er rip.. You might get lucky and shoot her eye out. That's probably exaggerating it a bit, but it will still be hilarious
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Old 01-22-06, 07:58 AM   #12
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HAHA...classic

when you sling mud, you're the one who gets dirty.


I guess people in glass houses shouldn't toss stones.


hahaha


Man I can't wait for Jay to come back blazin...should be some hot music!
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ye,im not gona call cam a biter,cos i defended jay-z.

but for him to call jay a biter when hes done the exact same thing...lmfaoooooooooo...what a dumb fuck....



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I've been saying it...EVERYONE at some point references another rapper

But...ADMIT IT! At least Jay admits it.
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Old 01-22-06, 10:00 AM   #14
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Actually I never referenced another rapper. At least intentionally.I've never sampled either. The most I've referenced is telin someone else lyrics I heard...that's about it. But I mean hey this beef is dumb anyway, it's just a way to keep Cam from dying out (Considering he's pushed that album back how many times? lol I don't even know if it's out now.), and to keep Jay Z in some kind of spotlight. I wouldn't be surprised if this is nothing but a giant stunt...that seems to work because places like RV has been goin spasmatic over this damn beef. Which isn't shit for now.
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so now everyone who says that theyre 'ballin' in a song is a biter???
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