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Old 02-04-04, 09:52 PM   #1
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What do ya'll feel about that line and do u think today in 04 we're ready, or were we ready before, or will we be ready soon?
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Old 02-04-04, 10:13 PM   #2
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I think America will seek to put a woman in office before a man of color. I know it's messed up but if Hilary has her way, this will be the case. I welcome the idea of a woman in office, since I have a daughter and wish her the world. It just pains me that a well qualified man of color would be passed up as a canidate for the office. I think colen powell has the best chance of any political figure, at making a bid for the white house. Condaleeza could share a ticket and get my vote. I think a female in the VP spot would be a rational step before a push for the house. Not sure if Hilary is willing to sit in the shadows for another term, she wants the top job. I really think things will change in the politcal arena in the near future. Conflicts abroad will change the face of politics for a long while.
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Old 02-04-04, 10:36 PM   #3
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a black man, a woman.. doesn't matter to me
as long as their qualified for the job and can handle the job
you don't have to be a white male to be the president
tho most i guess see it like that... i refuse to think that
everyone's impression from me is not based on color/ race/ sex
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well..a think that there is a qualified black man somewhere in usa that is ready..but it damn sure aint Al Sharpton..although he be ownin niggas in debates..

I would also prefer a woman as president over a black man..
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Old 02-04-04, 10:51 PM   #5
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lol ^ didn't Colin Powell refuse to run .
Even though they wanted him to.
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yeah..Colin would have been good..but he's a nigger pie for not acceptin..
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Old 02-04-04, 11:28 PM   #7
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No, we aren't ready. Racism still exists, and I am more than sure some idiot would kill him.
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Old 02-05-04, 12:07 AM   #8
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Old 02-05-04, 01:41 AM   #9
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Not to be the cynical one, but there aren't many ethnicities involved with the government today. Yes there are those Colin Powell's, devoting themselves to the cause and those more self-appointed such as Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson, but the truth is no one of ethnic backrground really gets involved in it. We should focus on getting more color in to congress and senate than to focus on presidential issues. Like End said, racisim still exists, oppression is over, but the fear and hatred still continues, and in my opinion more so now than before. No offense to any who take offense, but no one can take an african-american canidate like al sharpton seriously, i mean what has he really done that prove he is global? His standpoint and political stance are questionable, let alone his approach and tactics.

I just also wanted to comment about Thrust post.
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you don't have to be a white male to be the president

technically you do... under our constitution, the president of united states of america must be at least 35 years old (give or take some years), protestant, a citizen by birth, blah blah politics blah blah, and of European decent... this is just one of many things stated in the constitution thats been outdated and neglected. In fact there was an amendment that still was unchanged until about 10 years ago, a white man could hang a black man if he was on his property.
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Old 02-05-04, 08:22 AM   #10
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under our constitution, the president of united states of america must be at least 35 years old (give or take some years), protestant, a citizen by birth, blah blah politics blah blah, and of European decent... this is just one of many things stated in the constitution thats been outdated and neglected. In fact there was an amendment that still was unchanged until about 10 years ago, a white man could hang a black man if he was on his property.


I hate to say it but you are as far from wrong as possible:

1. JFK was catholic
2. You don't have to be born in this country to become president, just a citizen for like ten or fifteen years or something like that
3. You defenetly don't have to be of european decent to be president, if that was the case we wouldn't even be having this discussion. Because it would be illegal for a black president.
4. And I'm 95 percent sure that being able to hang a black man ANYWHERE was never in the constitution, maybe a law made by local governments, but never in the constitution.

and to be completely blunt, if you think there will be a black, asian, female, hispanic, gay/lesbian, jewish, or middle eastern president in our, our children, even our grandchildren's lives, you are extremely delusional...
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2. You don't have to be born in this country to become president, just a citizen for like ten or fifteen years or something like that


No immigrants have every american privelage except to be president and vice president
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Old 02-05-04, 02:45 PM   #12
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I hate to say it but you are as far from wrong as possible:

2. You don't have to be born in this country to become president, just a citizen for like ten or fifteen years or something like that...


Son, as the constituiton stipulates today, only a citizen by brith right can run for the most powerful public office, the Presidency. It is illegal and unconstituional as of today, for a naturlized citizen to be elected President of the United States. This may one day be amended but as it reads today, you are completly wrong. Just thought I'd point that out to you...

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and to be completely blunt, if you think there will be a black, asian, female, hispanic, gay/lesbian, jewish, or middle eastern president in our, our children, even our grandchildren's lives, you are extremely delusional...


Now I am delusional according to you. In contrast to your view, more than 80 percent of Americans expect to see a woman and or a man of color in Office within thier life time. The President of the U.N. is a black man, Kofi Anan although politicaly I disagree with just about everything this man say's, I respect his role as leader of the UN. I really think that your view is way off base, and it's you who are delusional. The world save a few liberal labeled "rouge states" look to this international body to solve every diplomatic, military and world crisis, yet a black man holds it's presidency. I think presidence has been set world wide, so it is more than reasonalbe to expect to see a change of face in D.C., within our life time. The rest of the world and mainstream America in your opinion must be delusional, I really doubt that!
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Now I am delusional according to you. In contrast to your view, more than 80 percent of Americans expect to see a woman and or a man of color in Office within thier life time. The President of the U.N. is a black man, Kofi Anan although politicaly I disagree with just about everything this man say's, I respect his role as leader of the UN. I really think that your view is way off base, and it's you who are delusional. The world save a few liberal labeled "rouge states" look to this international body to solve every diplomatic, military and world crisis, yet a black man holds it's presidency. I think presidence has been set world wide, so it is more than reasonalbe to expect to see a change of face in D.C., within our life time. The rest of the world and mainstream America in your opinion must be delusional, I really doubt that!


ok than, answer me this, give me ONE country (besides african nations) that has the same percentage of african american citizens as the US where one is in power.

I'll even go one farther (I haven't done any research but I'm pretty sure this is correct), give me just ONE country where there is a minority as the leader of a country, that came into power without a coup..

Theres a very distinct difference between asking people to take a poll about something, and seeing them follow through. American citizens are very capricious individuals, they'll say that they want to see an african american president, but won't give them enough votes to get through the primaries. The only exception to what I just said was in 88 when jesse jackson ran, being a black male, I hate to say this but that was a complete fluke...

I'm not delusional in the slightest, I'm a realest...


p.s. thanks for correcting my mistake, must have gotten my facts all fucked up... Thats what I get for smoking weed all day.
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Old 02-05-04, 03:55 PM   #14
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ok than, answer me this, give me ONE country (besides african nations) that has the same percentage of african american citizens as the US where one is in power.

I'll even go one farther (I haven't done any research but I'm pretty sure this is correct), give me just ONE country where there is a minority as the leader of a country, that came into power without a coup..

Theres a very distinct difference between asking people to take a poll about something, and seeing them follow through. American citizens are very capricious individuals, they'll say that they want to see an african american president, but won't give them enough votes to get through the primaries. The only exception to what I just said was in 88 when jesse jackson ran, being a black male, I hate to say this but that was a complete fluke...

I'm not delusional in the slightest, I'm a realest...


p.s. thanks for correcting my mistake, must have gotten my facts all fucked up... Thats what I get for smoking weed all day.


You need to come at me with more than this childs play kid. The Peruvian Government elected in 1990 a Japenesse man named Fujimori! An agricultural engineer born in Japn who was a political unkown until weeks before the election. You have to do better than that, it's obvous you have no grounds to make outrages claims, as you have. Don't take this as an attack, but just a reflection of the facts... I do admire your passion, keep your head in it, but don't let emotion out wiegh logic.
That is my advice for you...
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Old 02-05-04, 01:59 AM   #15
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No, we aren't ready. Racism still exists, and I am more than sure some idiot would kill him.



It would be a tragedy, But, it would be the beginning..!!!

I mean, Marin Luther King was hated...But how many heads turned when he was killed...

A black President would force a phew changes in the world....

If he was assasinated, then there would be ALLOT of changes..!!

Even if G.W Bush was assasinated, wouldent that make a phew changes allso..??
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