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Old 12-12-05, 10:29 PM   #1
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Tookie - Death or Not?

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I know Tha Q already made a thread about how he's going to be executed, but his question and point for making it was questioning it was whether or not L.A. will riot. Mine is different.

I want to know if you think he deserves to die. It doesn't really matter, as he is going to be executed tomorrow, but there has been many opinions on his death and whether or not he is a changed man.

Personally, I'm saying fuck Tookie. He killed a whole family in robbery. He started one of the most murderous gangs in history. EVERYBODY says they're changed when they're in jail. What else are you going to do? Be like "Oh, fuck you. KILL EVERYBODY!" There may be a few people who do that, but most people will say that they're changed. I think Tookie's a fucking punk and he deserves to die. I know that whole "eye for an eye" shit and why it doesn't work, and I know that a lot of people think he'd be more use alive then dead, but I don't really give a shit. I don't buy for a second that he has changed. I think that's between him and God, or whatever. I could really care less about him. If somebody shot my mom, dad, brother, and sister, you can bet your ass I would want to see them dead, and I'm willing to bet anybody here would too. He can claim innocence, whatever. I don't give a fuck.

I'm not going to keep going with my side, so as to not make this first post to long, but overall:

Fuck Tookie.
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Old 12-12-05, 10:30 PM   #2
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i say kill that fucker...

cause if it was my fam he killed....id wanna watch that shit and laugh in his face while he was getting injected....
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Old 12-12-05, 10:32 PM   #3
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over kill much?
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Old 12-12-05, 10:34 PM   #4
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Does he deserve it? Definately.

Is it wise to kill him? No
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Old 12-12-05, 10:37 PM   #5
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Wise? Everything you were saying in the other thread is just speculation. You think shit will happen. You think he'll become a martyr. All speculation.

Now, on the other hand, he killed four innocent people and started one of the worst gangs in the world, where hundreds of deaths have come to result because of it.

Kill the motherfucker.
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Old 12-12-05, 10:39 PM   #6
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Speculation with a 99% chance of happening.

Is Pac a hero? Yes. A legend? For sure. Look at all the legacies in the world, left AFTER the starter died. I'm tellin ya man, the Crips will just grow in power and will become that much more violent.
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Old 12-12-05, 11:04 PM   #7
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What you guys aren't realizing and that the news is not telling you is that THERE IS NO CONCLUSIVE EVIDENCE THAT HE COMMITTED A SINGLE ONE OF THE MURDERS HE IS IMPRISONED FOR. As a matter of fact, there's more evidence against it than there is supporting it. That's why he gets the support he does, but of course...why would the news ever tell you that?

As far as if he deserves to die or not, that depends. What does killing an individual who has turned against and reveted hundreds if not thousands of people from a life of crime accomplish? If you answer is "now that I think about it..only bad things" or "nothing" then the the answer is no, don't kill him.


He will never get a pardon. Why? because when people want to trash Ahhnald, they're gonna say" Arnold Schwartzenneger actually gave a governotorial pardon to the co-founder of one of the larges gangs in the world".

News flash: politics are still about just that. Politics.
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Old 12-12-05, 11:10 PM   #8
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^^WOW...Bold certainly does validate what you're saying...

pssf...Arnold S. is right...we know that everyone on death row is innocent...

sure...uh huh



the man is guilty...period.


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Old 12-12-05, 11:29 PM   #9
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ok im with rev...... he deserves to die.......... but i dunno if it would be the smartest thing......

but whats with all the anarchists........ all of u are askin like the cofounder of the crips is a really nice guy or sumthin, and some people were sayin in these threads that they should stick it to the government
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Old 12-12-05, 11:30 PM   #10
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This dude started the gang that triggered the movement of gangs all around the world and killed so many fuckin innocant people. He deserves to die RIGHT NOW. But he needs to put an end to the horrible shit he started and die trying. If dude dies we just gonna have to kill everyone wearing a blue or red shirt.
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Old 12-12-05, 11:31 PM   #11
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i dont think it matters.......he gone die....weither he's injected or rotts in his cell.....and yes i do think they will riot....shits deep man
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ok im with rev...... he deserves to die.......... but i dunno if it would be the smartest thing......

but whats with all the anarchists........ all of u are askin like the cofounder of the crips is a really nice guy or sumthin, and some people were sayin in these threads that they should stick it to the government



If he were still the person that he was when he started the crips, I'd be all for it. He's spoken to countless gang members and reverted them. Dude's one of the founders of the crips, so imagine the power of his message when he says "take it from me man, gangs are a bad idea. heres an alternative". He writes childrens book, and is otherwise a would-be model citizen and certianly a model inmate. He's an icon to a lot of people in gangs because he's A: a founding father, which WOULD make him a 5 or 6 tomes over OG, so when he tells you to do something , you HAVE to do it. HE's denounced gang life and encourages others to do the same.


Q, I'll start having conversation with you whne you actually know wht you're tlaking about. There's 4 points of evidence that show "tookie" is NOT involved with any of the murders he is imprisoned for. Points of evidence that she he DID do it? Zero.
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Old 12-12-05, 11:39 PM   #13
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If he were still the person that he was when he started the crips, I'd be all for it. He's spoken to countless gang members and reverted them. Dude's one of the founders of the crips, so imagine the power of his message when he says "take it from me man, gangs are a bad idea. heres an alternative". He writes childrens book, and is otherwise a would-be model citizen and certianly a model inmate. He's an icon to a lot of people in gangs because he's A: a founding father, which WOULD make him a 5 or 6 tomes over OG, so when he tells you to do something , you HAVE to do it. HE's denounced gang life and encourages others to do the same.


Q, I'll start having conversation with you whne you actually know wht you're tlaking about. There's 4 points of evidence that show "tookie" is NOT involved with any of the murders he is imprisoned for. Points of evidence that she he DID do it? Zero.


Ya, Mimesis left out where I said that he is doing good for the world. This man deserves to die, but what he is doing is good. Let him continue his message.
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bein a cofounder.... and admitting it already puts him under conspriracy to commit mass murder, and conspiracy to commit other mass criminal acts......... cuz really name wat the crips do besides break the law........
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bein a cofounder.... and admitting it already puts him under conspriracy to commit mass murder, and conspiracy to commit other mass criminal acts......... cuz really name wat the crips do besides break the law........

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