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Old 11-20-03, 10:02 PM   #151
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Actually, I quoted from his 4 disc compilation album entitled "We Are Hip-Hop. Me, You, Everybody".


Yhea that the song you are talkng about is from Black on Both sides taht is included in that box set, adn you spent 50 dollars on that and didn't listen to a word of it, becasue like I said he talking bout everything a say in his songs




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I suppose then Apple Computers is working for him too. So is Linux. Bill Gates doesn't own the whole fucking computer program industry.



I didn't say the whole computer industry I said MICROSOFT. I was using THAT PARTICULAR COMPANY, NOT the whole computer industry. In that context Apple would be Pop, Liniz would be Folk..ect..A whole nother different thing. Microsoft has expaned just like hip-hop has, he has other people besides hiself involed in it becasue of it's expantion just like hip-hop has but it's still HIS company.

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No, I don't call them that because it is disrespectful and they don't even call their friends that because they find it disrespectful and think that those black people that use that word like it means nothing because an "a" is pronounced instead of an "er" are complete idiots and are ignorant to their heritage. And you start off with a Woe to the black man statement, and yet don't even begin to read what I'm saying. STOP LETTING RACE BE A MOTHERFUCKING FACTOR FOR EVERYTHING AND JUST ACCEPT PEOPLE FOR WHAT THEY ARE!!! HIP-HOP IS NOT BLACK MUSIC, IT IS FOR EVERYONE WHO IS FEELING IT. Get off of this fucking "Help the poor black man" stance and start striving for the common good. You stand there with a voice screaming discrimination to the black people behind your computer and forget about the poor man who can't even afford a computer, begs for money and gets nothing but passer-byers. The children who are orphans and get sent to an orphanage. That's not discrimination?


First off, alot of shit on you so-called replay is just plain made up shit. Becasue for one IF you do have black friends, which I dought very seriously if you express to them the same thing that you telling me in this post, then these imaginary black friends of yours whould know that dialog using niggas OR niggers toword each other IS part of our heritage. Like a said we been saing that word to each other waaaaaay before this hip-hop shit, all the way back to slavery times, like I said my damn grandma says it but it was between US, OUR way of communicating I explained the whole 'family' thing already so I;m not going to again. So it;s your black freinds that you SOUPOSELY have thats ignorent to they own culture. But liek I said I don;t know what type of black friends you got if you sit up and talk to them like you do on here, either you lying, Or you hardheaded becasue they woulda told you the same thing I am so stop frontin, joe

And why do you get this I'm saying woe is me thing, You don;t know what type of community stance I take just becasue I'm behind a computer, even poor people got either computers or playstions nowadays they ain;t that expensive no more.I'm not rich, shit I'm only a couple steps up from that very man on the corner if I didn't have the hustle to cut hair, sell little mixtapes on the side and have a day job at a factory whitle going to school trying and seeing where this hip-hop takes me trying to better my situation for me and mine to be in a position to at least TRY to make it. And belive me when I do, I will do the best to give back to WHOEVER needs it. BUT I gotta take care of home first. I gotta sweep around my own front door first before I go clean other peoples shit, I know blacks is not the only poeple poor I know it orphans and fuck up shit in other contries, But first priority is my poeple, what I look like going out helping some bum or orphan in some peckawoods or suburds somewhere when it's a crack baby that need care right arcoss the street from me becasue it's mother is stung out, by no means am I trying to save the world but I do what I can with the people closet to me that I see everyday and the is in the same stuggle. Is makes no sense for me to go get in a car and travel 50 miles to help sombody when my own brother is dying right next to me.

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I was called many names for being white. They looked at me as though I was the main reason for the slave trade. I am arguing with you because you make it sound as though blacks set the guidelines for Hip-Hop, when it is a very expansive genre all on its own. I am saying that the minute you exclude a contributor from the group do to something of physical appearance, you automatically deny the group of that talent and hurt yourself. Hip-Hop is not black music. That is a racist statement all on its own. You make it sound like it is strictly for the blacks, and whoever else wants to be a part of it must be a black's "bitch" and listen to their rules. You make it sound like the black person can't listen to anything else.


I didn't make is seem like nothing, we DID. When Kool Herc broght them trunatbles out, you traying to tell me it was white people spinning those records in Bronx projects!? S A white person wrote The Message!? White people had something to do with the ZuLu Nation with Bambatta!? You tryna tell me it was white poeple thought of Breakin' in the begining when it was being created? You tryna tell me whites poeple though of Grafitti? Last time I check those DJing Breaking Emceein Beatboxin' and Grafitti ARE the guidlines of this hip-hop shit...and white people ain't have nothing to do with 'em when they were being created, they made contrubtions later on but they didn;t help set the guidlines. And shit black poepl can listen to what ever the hell they wan't too. shit listen to some rock, not that much but a do babble, White peole can listen hip-hop, shit everybody can I KEEP SAYING THAT. But it ain;t no denying that hip-hop is black music be cause it was MADE by blacks, it's not black music becasue only balcks can listen to it, only blacks can do it....

If you make something, that shit if yours. IF you make a pizza for a party, yhea everybody can have some, shit you WANT peopel to have some so they know how good it is, but when sombody ask damn who made that you gonna say ITS MINE, I MADE that. Didn't nowbody help you create it so nobody eles can make that claim to say that. If John made the pizza they gonna say "Dman, JOHNS pizza was good", not Damn the EVERYBODY WHO ATE pizza was good


....Damn I gotta break shit down to grade school just for you to understand.....


ANd why do poeple keep twisting my shit around and saying that I said it strickly for blacks ONLY. I expained that shit THREE fuckin' ties already...I said it's black music becasue we created it, anybody can be in it as long as you RESPECT were it came from, and respect the rules of the game. you don;t play fuckin' basketball and not know what a travling is, and a foul is adn expect to to on any serious high school team let along NBA. THe dude who make up the game of basketball says, if you "Take three steps without dribbling that traveling, that how it's gonna be" Guess what, that how it;s gon be! You can;t gettin gthe the game on some "Well I'm gonna take five steps" don;t follow the 'rules' and you ain;t gone be playing that long


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Old 11-20-03, 10:18 PM   #152
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damn .. you guys make posts i dont even WANT to read to see who i agree with = /
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Old 11-20-03, 10:20 PM   #153
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the worst part of all this shit is the fact that there are 9 pages of responses on this garbage. If your white black yellow or purple you cant fucking deny the fact that this shit is racist. Theres obviously a fucking double standard, when i go on mtv.com and see some headline "eminem says he was young and angry for racist comments" like who the fuck cares, its no excuse. If jigga or any "nigger" said that kind of shit theyd be dropped for fuck sakes. and if you dont believe me look uo shit on the dead prez
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Old 11-20-03, 10:49 PM   #154
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Old 11-20-03, 10:55 PM   #155
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Yhea that the song you are talkng about is from Black on Both sides taht is included in that box set, adn you spent 50 dollars on that and didn't listen to a word of it, becasue like I said he talking bout everything a say in his songs


Yeah, you stupid fool, it is a fucking album. And I see you were proved wrong, it is ashame I didn't post sooner because You know you went on for a fucking paragraph about how it wasn't an album. And I didn't buy the damned thing. I just quoted the title you idiot.




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First off, alot of shit on you so-called replay is just plain made up shit. Becasue for one IF you do have black friends, which I dought very seriously if you express to them the same thing that you telling me in this post, then these imaginary black friends of yours whould know that dialog using niggas OR niggers toword each other IS part of our heritage. Like a said we been saing that word to each other waaaaaay before this hip-hop shit, all the way back to slavery times, like I said my damn grandma says it but it was between US, OUR way of communicating I explained the whole 'family' thing already so I;m not going to again. So it;s your black freinds that you SOUPOSELY have thats ignorent to they own culture. But liek I said I don;t know what type of black friends you got if you sit up and talk to them like you do on here, either you lying, Or you hardheaded becasue they woulda told you the same thing I am so stop frontin, joe


And for you imformation, not every black person isolates themselves from the outerworld controlled by the whitedevil

Here is a shot of my two best friends, Darryn and Carlton, at Darryn's graduation, mocking those idiots that try to act hard all of the time in camera poses. As for the "nigga" thing,their cousin called Carlton that and his mom quickly told him she didn't want to hear that in their house. You stupid idiot. Don't even try to make this personal and attack my life. You know nothing about me, moron.
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Old 11-20-03, 11:15 PM   #156
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^^^Mu'fucka, Thats the same thing you did you when you said I talk and sit behind a computer instead of help the better man, You attacked my life, something you don;t know, so don;t try to get all drama queen and shit on me. Being the fact that you keep arguing with me because I made my comments and since you do have black friends the stuff you sayin to me they should be replying with the same thing, if they bring up something about what happend like getting racial profiles or denied an oppratunity, what you gonna yell 'AHH GET OVER IT" like you keep telling me!?! And they gonna be cool with that!?!? SHit they gonna be mad, just like I am when I heard what Em said, and people is sayin "ohh get over it, he was just upset" AND PLUS, just becasue I said nigga was used before me don;t mean I go around saying it were my mom can hear. My mom woulda said the same thing too....And plus you already admitted that you don;t use the word, think if you was in that house and YOU said that word......It wouln't of been no just a slap in the wrist "don;t say that anymore" it would been alot more and don;t try to front and twist shit up. Weather black people say it to ech oterh or not is they CHOICE, but they have that CHOICE, YOU DON"T have that choice to say that shit to them. And I didn;t say every black person is hood either, but the fact they might not say it next to they moms but they still say it, at least they cousins to each other or whatever...but YOU can't say it. Which is the whole point I'm trying to make it the first FUCKIN place. I can see if you told me "You see that pic, I was in the house with them with they mom and all that and I said "shut up, nigga". Then that woulda been the story. Then my issue would not have been with you but more with THEM and they black, cuz weather that black person is hood, hip-hop, suburban, old, young or whatever most black people ain;t goin for that shit. So you tryna tell me if ya'll or out at night and the police stops ya'll, your black freind getts racialy prolied, harssed and threw to the ground by the police, adn they barly do anything to you What you gonna say on the ride home, "AWW shut up and deal with it you idiot!" This goes back to my first argument them, if you hang out with these dudes, if they go to prodomilty black clubs/events with them and vise versa the same with you, you tryna tell me you don;t see the difference in treatment in each setting!?! you tryna tell me everything is kosher all the time!?

And don't make me out to be this "cracker hater", not once did a say anyhting like White Devils or none of that shit......
....GODDAMMIT how many time do I gotta say that shit. I can critic some of the fucked up shit a think is going that don;t mean I hate white people, you aruguing black issues with me and you got black freinds so it don't seem liek you HATE blacks, so why when I do they same "Ohh he hates white poeple in general then"!?!?

ANd that Mos thing is a compilation but it's not no new matierial. That qoute is from Black on Both sides just like I said, adn they just made it the title of the box set. But the acually quote is from a concetual pro black album, just like most of his music...
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Old 11-21-03, 02:18 AM   #157
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Not just Necro, Cage also says nigga... If eminem really was a full blown racist he would be saying that word all over the place, but the fact that he's not to show respect to hip hops roots shows that he knows what he did was wrong and is regretting it.... i bet u that necro and cage have said things like this time and time again, but no one hates them... they aint worth 80 million dollars...... people say and do stupid things... anyone who claims that they never have is most definately a liar... just admit it and move on... face the fact that anyone with skill can make it in hiphop big.. you dont judge people by what theyve done in the past, its what theyre doing now that matters...
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Old 11-21-03, 09:49 AM   #159
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1. Used as a disparaging term for a Black person: “You can only be destroyed by believing that you really are what the white world calls a nigger” (James Baldwin).
2. Used as a disparaging term for a member of any dark-skinned people.

# Used as a disparaging term for a member of any socially, economically, or politically deprived group of people: “Gun owners are the new niggers... of society” (John Aquilino).

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people say and do stupid things... anyone who claims that they never have is most definately a liar... just admit it and move on... face the fact that anyone with skill can make it in hiphop big.. you dont judge people by what theyve done in the past, its what theyre doing now that matters...



See thats where you fuckin' up becasue you don't see the free pass. And Im souposed to just "get over it" after he said "I don;t fuck with that nigga shit!?" when he says "Black bitches are dumb and white girls are better!?". How can you justify that ain't no fucked up shit!? THat shit ain't coo what he siad, I don;t give fuck how mad he was. And yhea I said some fucked up shit to alot of people, and guess what that was the end of our friendship/relationship or whatever. THe people I said it too didn't just "get over it" Somethigns you say something ain;t no coming back from that shit regardless........


just an example, I don't mean any of it becasue I don;t know you and not trying to clown or disrespect on you just show you what i mean.....

Now if I was over your house with you family, at a Thanksgiving dinner or some shit.... I don't know. And for what ever reason they do something to me, tell me I can't have anymore food and I got to leave. Now I spazz out, Like well Fuck yo bitch ass momma, fuck your pussy as father, your whole familiy is wack, and mines is better" Now even if I come to you and say I'm sorry how many of you would say aiight dude, even though you just disrepected eveybody in my family I forgive you..And even if you DID forgive me would you view me the same as a friend or somebody you associate with, know I just called you mom a bitch with no remorse of what I was saying?!? Knowing that is something that flew from my mouth!?!

50 Cent didn't forgive Ja Rule when he tried to applogize and everybody is like "yhea dog, whats done is done, fuck Ja" IT a publisity stunt.

Em came with the swift apology becasue hes trying to save whatver credibility or respest he has left in the hip-hop community and black communtiy...even though it's not gonna hurt his sales becasue most of his slaes in not from the black comminuty, shit most of his sales is not from the HIP-HOP communty, you don;t seel 8 million records just of off hip-hop fans, alot of those people are pop/top 40 buyers....


Look man, I seriosly think some of yall cats is just plain retarded. I mean everytime I reply I gotta repeat myself, I DID NOT SAY NOWHERE that if you a white person you not in allowed to make it in hip-hop, not allowed to participate in hip-hop, not allowed to express they art in hip-hop, you are the slaves to black people, NONE of that shit. But if you not black or latino you are a outsider in hip-hop....why is it so hard to understand!? The PRINCABLES and FOUNDATION was build on what goes on in the black community, that means our lingo, our style or conversations. IF you ain;t black then you don;t have nothign to do what what we doing as a COMMUNITY. if we call each other nigga, let us deal with our own shit. But YOU is a outsider and can't say that shit.
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this is annoying now, just shut up. Someone close this shit .. damn.
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he only continued the "er" wen sayin nigga cuz he was runnin outta breath

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Old 11-21-03, 02:32 PM   #165
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It's like whatever D-Dizzle.....You are not going to listen to me and I'm not going to listen to you. We can argue with a fucking wall and probably get a better return.

My point never was for blacks to deal with racism.....My point is that Hip-Hop is not black music and when the world tries to separate itself into groups excluding certain people due to physical appearance, then that group suffers. I am not saying that racism is right, I am not saying that people should just accept it and deal with it. I am saying that we need to end racism and realize that we are all human.

Hip-Hop is not black music
It is music
And anyone that wants to participate in it can and will participate in it.

Hip-Hop is expansive. It is confined to a certain subject, a certain style, a certain anything...
This is why Hip-Hop can boast of a diverse cast of artists from Tupac to Slug to Dose One...

Hip-Hop is not black music.
The same way that country is not white music.
The same way that the Golden Oldies are not old people music.

If it sounds good, listen to it. Stop letting quibbles of race or the year it came out be a factor. If it sounds good, listen to it. And everyone is welcome to listen to it.
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