i'm not trying to insue arguments... you point is valid, MLK jr.'s death was a wake up call, but i don't think it was a positive one. what your saying is, so even if we had a black president and he were to be assasinated, it would be okay because there would be changes? If MLK's death were to truly change things, there would be no racism period. He died in vain... Racism is at an all time worse, in my opinion. Not only do we have races hating other races (palestinians-israelis, iraqis-americans, whites-blacks), but races hating within their race. Malicious Hatred. It's one huge identitiy crisis... everyone has forgotten their roots, in turn instilled fear into the unknown and hate was not the typical and whats different. And what makes racism worse in our day and age compared to the past is exactly that... its the past... segregation and biggatry (sp?) has happened, oppression has happened, its been noted and professed to our generation, generations before us, and generations to come. We're taught and reminded of our horrible history, holocaust, world war, women's rights, blacks rights, etc. and taught that what happened is wrong... so why are we still digressing and repeating history?

i apologize, if i'm rambling and going on and on... this is just one of the few topics that really get me interested in conversing.

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Fuck them.. Fuck them all..

As long as whoever gets in power can run a damn country.. I dont care whether they are a bisexual transvestite in a wheelchair.. or a normal white guy.

i dont think it could happen...people would slaughter us...

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a black pres would be nice but not al sharpton

how come nobody ever talks about other races

everything is always "white keeping blacks out of something" but what about latinos, asians, native americans, and all the other races?

we have never had a president, we dont have sports owners/coaches, quarterbacks, but we dont go all over the news bitching about it.

people doing that shit, are part of the reason racisum is still alive. they call everyone racist but they are racist themselfs for making everything a racial issue.

and dont give me bullshit about blacks went threw slavery so they are diffrent.

what about latnios? we are still treaded like shit, we still have people working is sweat shops, picking cotton working in the fields, digging ditches, doing hard laber for less then minimum wage. we dont cry about racisum for every little thing, even though we are treated just as bad as the black people and we still get kicked out of the country, people are always talking about blacks making up most the prison population, when latinos are just as bad, but nobody seems to give a shit about us.

what about native americans? they had it worse before african americans did, they were slaughtered, kicked off their own land, made slaves and transported in slave boats just like blacks, forced to walk "the trail of tears" where most died. native americans once owned all of america, now they are stuck in their little pueblos, nearly all native american tribes were killed off. they had it worse then blacks did, and they still do, even though their goverment takes good care of the, they are treated like shit outside of their pueblos.

FUCK WHAT COLOR SOMEONE IS, IF THEY ARE QUALIFIED THEY SHOULD GET THE JOB! im tired of this bullshit about blacks dont get nothing cause all "minortys" are treated like shit, but for somereason its only a big deal when it affects black people.

^ Al sharpton is actually damaging the chances of a qualified black or any other minority canidate. Politically, he's an idiot, I mean I'd take him on any day of the week in a debate of the issue's. He has demonstated lack of self control and the use of fictious data pulled out of the air durring debates. He misrepresented facts on gun control and then after being questioned about it, he changed face. I hope he doesn't paint the wrong image for those black Americans who actually stand a chance in the Shark infested poltcal waters of Washington...

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^ The raza is making huge moves in politcs C. I mean it's a poor imagrant form Tijuana that is now in the most powerful chair of California legislation. Also Bush has elected several hispanics to highly regarded federal spots in our government. Dawg check your new twenty dollar bill Rosaria Marin signature is on it as secretary of treasuary. That is a huge advancement of our people carnal. Not only that she is being endorsed to run against Boxer for her seat on the senate, now that is a great thing. She's a conservative hispanic with the tenacity to win the senate election, which will bring more hispanic recognition into congress. Why do you guy's think I am such an avid politician, it's a very exciting time in American History, we can all make a difference, if we try. Not getting involved does nothing for our status, yet together our voice is starting to be heard. I mean all pollitical parties are pandering for the latino vote, why is that? Becuase we are growing in numbers and status, while our parents break their back at work, we are getting an education. While our parents struggle to make ends meet, we are learning that our influence on this country is growing. Instead of blaming the Goverment for the plight of our people we are actually doing something to improve our social satus here in America. That is why we are becoming a loud voice, propelling faster than other minorites in these areas. It's not an issue of race, but that of social structure. We need to work together to improve the class strucutre of all minorities, not just our own. The education gap is slipping and mainstream America is waking up to this each and everyday. Let's keep moving forward on all fronts and at the same time understand we are all in this together, no matter pigmentation or faith.

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halfrican, in all honesty check your facts before you correct someone... cause when you try to correct someone and your actually wrong you look less credible. plus, your statement , translate to you saying i'm right... being as I'm "far from wrong"... (anyone else catch that).

C. I think when people say black, they mean anything not white for the most part. From a KKK standpoint we all don't belong here if we have any trace of pigmentation in our skin. true, there are latinos working in the fields, factories, etc. But typically its those with little education and qualifications who are taking those jobs, its not by force, so you aren't treated like shit. To boot, illegal immigrants in california get fre college educations... which we pay for... majority who are getting the funds, hispanics. I have no problem with latinos, i have spanish blood as well, but I don't think its fair when folks say we have it worse or some shit. First off, i wouldn't be proud if my people/race were the most oppressed. I'm for all races, even caucasians get treated. There are more scholarships catering to ethnicity except caucasian. Not too long ago certain #s had to be met, quotas per race had to be filled for colleges. I'm made up of Islander/Asian, Spanish, African (not Afro-American)... so i'm not race bias.

Bounce... on point as always. the least amount of votes lies within the age grouping of 18-24... and people complain so damn much about or government. Need to stop playing from the sidelines.

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You know Jes, youre going to make one hell of a wife one day. I can only pray my daughter projects a fraction of the logic that you do. Keep it up mija and keep giving them hell, I hope your studies are going well. Like always I love to read your posts.

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who gives a fuck , In my opinion we haven't had a decent president yet

100th Post!!!!

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oh...

and i agree with all of you...

Even if a black candidate could get a nomination, the south still votes.

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i know where c section is coming from cuzi think the same thing and then i think it was bounce that said something like " when they say black, they mean anything not white"... now that can be true... but still i think people need to stop bitchin about race and racism cuz that only feeds it more... like in the NFL the fuckin owners have to interview a minority or suffer a fine and loss of pick... thats the most embarrassing thing u can do to someone... cuz its not a real interview most of the time its just a fuckin joke and shit... anyways, i really hate it when people complain about that shit, just means ur weak and let it get to you... but everyone has had some good points and as far as im concerned it be tight to actually have a Prez that wasnt fuckin feed by the silver spoon... someone that knows what its like to live in the gutter... just ot see what would happen... probably something bab... im done i think...

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BERNIE MAC FOR PRESIDENT..Jeeeaaahhhh!!!!!!!!

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