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Old 04-12-06, 04:40 PM   #1
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rap and violence are intertwined but rap does not breed violence

look most of them are from the ghetto so no matter whether they like rap pop bill clinton football or watever they are automatically exposed to violence so naturally its apart of their lives

rap is an interest, a hobbie and wit sum is taken further to make a career out of it and rap is an extremly popular hobbie which alot of the youth are interested in and most in the ghetto are interested in so these people who are into rap are already exposed to violence and a rougher life, the rap does not expose them to it or make them violent its their surrounding and the way they where raised

come on rap breathes violence is a stupid comment thats like sayin yo-yo's breathe violence cause wen every1 was playin wit yo-yos they where all playin wit them in the hood aswell as a hobby just like rap is a hobby but i dont see very1 blamin the yo-yos for the violence in youth today

rap is just an easy target to blame



No...saying "yo yos" BREED violence is a dumb comment because yo yos aren't "art" in the media sense of the word.

This is the age old argument of: "Does life imitate art or art life?"


Rap is an artform. I believe that life imitates art. If it didn't, then why do we use music at all? Anyone who isn't a bonehead knows that music influences the way we think/feel.

Come on bro...

Rap and violence go hand and hand.
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Old 04-12-06, 04:43 PM   #2
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how many opera,country,pop and jazz performers are young males from the ghetto?????


this aint related ta rap but people like oprah winfrey is from the ghetto and oprah still is in the hood i mean i been outside of her set there be4 over in chicago a few years back...she was so poor she couldnt even afford a tv..but she lived in a hood filled wit violence and works today in an environment that is filled wit violence and she has nothing ta do wit rap at all yet she still living and aint shooting anybody or anything...if u ask me its rap that brings the drama...but we also speak alotta violence in rap too....since when has a jazz singer get in beef wit another jazz singer and start dissin them left and right in songs lmfao it dont happen but when u talk shit to a person they gon react most likely violently and rap is really the only genre of music where u can actually talk shit bout someone else in a song
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Old 04-12-06, 04:52 PM   #4
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are most jazz singers youny males from the ghetto...........NO


how u know that u listen ta jazz?
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Old 04-12-06, 09:54 PM   #5
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Again, my question is, why even be in that environment? Why is he carrying around a gun? Why do rappers feel like they have to prove their manhood/bravado through violence?

Of course, just like I stated yesterday, rappers/DJs/etc are defending hip hop by saying, "this doesn't mean it was rap related."

pssf...sure...My question to them is: "How many opera, country, pop, and jazz performers have been gunned down in the last 10 years"?

Rap breeds violence and Proof is its latest victim. RIP tho...

It's just sad man.

Another thing...I find it eerie that he depicted his death in Em's video for "Toy Soldiers." Like Pac and Big, I wonder if he had an obsession over death and became a self-fulfilling prophecy.

Who knows...

The rap industry had better be careful though. If things like this continue to happen, then the government will become involved, spying on rappers even more than they already do and imposing regulations on music.

^^That's what I think.



I 100% disagree.
Most rappers who go back and home visit the street and clubs they used to go to isnt because they want to prove manhood. I mean,it's dumb ... but thats where they grew up at,just cuz u got a little money dont mean u cant go back,it isnt the smart thing,but im sure he didnt do it to prove he's 'hard'

When u grow up around that shit (maybe u dont understand) it's not that easy to leave it all behind,no matter how much money u have.

Opera,jazz and country preformers dont go back home to the 'hood'. Because 95% of them didnt grow up around that,so why go?!

Thats my view on shit ...
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i dont think the gov will do shit, how many white men over the age of 40 like rap? or even care about younger minorities in hip hop :-\ not many imo, and thats what the government is composed of, and just because proof had a gun doesnt mean he had it because it made him look cool or whatever, he had it for protection cuz he was in a bad area, i dont think the fact that he had a gun makes it seem like he had it cuz it was 'gangsta' type shit, and hes there cuz he prolly just like to hang out there =/ thats his choice, its not so smart to go back to a bad area when you're famous already but he did it anyway
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Old 04-12-06, 04:51 PM   #7
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i dont think the gov will do shit, how many white men over the age of 40 like rap? or even care about younger minorities in hip hop :-\ not many imo, and thats what the government is composed of, and just because proof had a gun doesnt mean he had it because it made him look cool or whatever, he had it for protection cuz he was in a bad area, i dont think the fact that he had a gun makes it seem like he had it cuz it was 'gangsta' type shit, and hes there cuz he prolly just like to hang out there =/ thats his choice, its not so smart to go back to a bad area when you're famous already but he did it anyway


yea exactly government NEVER does shit for rappers when they die
i dont see why they dont it like they on the killers side fo real
i mean think about it they tell us they gon find the killer
when in real life they really dont give a fuck
yet instead of takin another person wit a gun off the street
they dont even bother trying cuz they hate rappers and gangstas
yet they dont bother ta arrest them thats fucked up
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Old 04-12-06, 03:27 PM   #8
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This is the type of shit that happens when you pull a gun on somebody.
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Old 04-12-06, 03:29 PM   #9
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his album already came out???????????
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his album already came out???????????


yup..."Searching for Jerry Garcia"..some of the tracks is tight..
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i swear it wasnt suppose to come out until later this year........ did u buy it at a store or did u bootlegg it?
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Old 04-12-06, 03:55 PM   #12
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naa man, i bought it today in store...when did u think it would be out?
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what is it with peeps n their guns these days man!!!
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Old 04-12-06, 04:29 PM   #14
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R.I.P. Proof... damn son.
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Old 04-12-06, 04:44 PM   #15
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and yo yos don't send out messages either


so that was a stupid statement on your part bro

Use better analogies please...cuz that one is an insult to my intelligence
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