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Old 01-24-04, 06:48 PM   #31
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so 50 underground albums like guess whos back dont count?? you should have specified
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Old 01-24-04, 07:47 PM   #32
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Eminem's songs do have concepts... they are just becoming generic. The controversy thing is just his signature. Most rappers have one... for example Rakim has heaps of different songs, but each song has a trace of battle rap in it where he self-glorifies. Em's signature is pissing you off while getting a message... but he is becoming generic. He's getting filler concepts in like "Soldier" and "Without Me" which have all been said before, by Em himself or some other rapper.

^ and THAT, is why he is falling off
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Old 01-24-04, 09:13 PM   #33
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when yall wake up in da morning and look in the mirror, take a good look at your self,
and say " if i was eminem what would i do today" the last thing you would think is too lose fame. the mu fukkas a lyricist and the highest paid one at that, hes untouchable
"so far" me im a lyricist that hasnt been noticed yet so all of you peeps that think em is weak "reality check fellas" look in the mirror your "nothing"
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Old 01-24-04, 11:51 PM   #34
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^ fame and money doesnt make you a good rapper. Look at 50 Cent. Or Nelly.
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Old 01-25-04, 12:22 AM   #35
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but think about how nelly and 50 made it there, by bein mad produced and controlled in their careers...em made it by totally doin his thang despite the constant criticism..now hes a star studded mc and theres nothin wrong with that
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Old 01-25-04, 02:54 AM   #36
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if u think eminem is fallin off or u think jay z is a bum or nas only had 1 good cd or u think that ja rule has somethin to offer the rap game then u really have no business concerning urself with hiphop. u should really take the time to listen to the meaning behind peoples music and dig a little deeper.
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Old 01-25-04, 03:11 AM   #37
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mmm i am not a stan but i dont really understand al the people hating on emminem cos' at one pointof time they would have listened to his music...
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Old 01-25-04, 04:51 AM   #38
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^ im not hating.... i did listen to his music.... I love the Slim Shady LP and Marshall Mathers LP... i didnt necessarily say eminem sucks now, i'm just saying hes losing it... its not as good as it used to be... what we need is him to bring the style of MMLP back with the lyrics of Infinite... but hes becoming all gangsta etc. and its too repetitive to hold my interest anymore...

ps. I own 4 Nas CD's and 4 Jay-Z CD's... therefore i am not a hater on that count either, if Opey was thinking i am...
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Old 01-25-04, 05:56 AM   #39
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eminem will sell 4 million records

while all you textcees will be writing 3 post songs about how you hate him.

dude is the most talented commercial emcee out right now, by far. yet, people who don't even rap, or are just learning to rap wanna look cool by saying he sucks as a artist.

when 99.9% of you dudes couldnt walk in his shoes if he lent em to you.
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Old 01-25-04, 08:26 AM   #40
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^ actually, Nas and Jay-Z are better commercial artists. If you would like to know why, ask, cos i cant be bothered posting something no one will read
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Old 01-25-04, 08:54 AM   #41
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I think em is runnin out of things to say....thats the problem he's got. There's nothin he hasnt touched on to do with his life, thats why he's goin into all the beefs again. The songs he said were leaked were good (except we as americans and monkey see, monkey do) but the only one which was really good was 'I love you more'....that song is amazin but again he was goin back at kim.

I'll still buy his new album but I'll be expectin the same as the eminem show because thinkin back to his past year....compared to what he was goin through durin the slim shady lp and the marshal mathers lp....this year has been fairly straight forward.

I can see this bein one of his best though coz he is retirin soon and I think he'll wanna go out with a bang.
If he does a fairwell concert like Jay Z did then that will be huge but we'll talk bout that if he does one.
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Old 01-25-04, 05:14 PM   #42
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He aint falling off.......get off Ja an Benzino's dick......
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Old 01-25-04, 08:49 PM   #43
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^ your pretty fucking stupid. Just because you think someone is falling off doesnt mean you like their enemies. Benzino and Ja Rule are both wack as fuck. But that doesnt mean i cant say that eminem is falling off.
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Old 01-25-04, 09:45 PM   #45
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if u think eminem is fallin off or u think jay z is a bum or nas only had 1 good cd or u think that ja rule has somethin to offer the rap game then u really have no business concerning urself with hiphop. u should really take the time to listen to the meaning behind peoples music and dig a little deeper.




I never thought Id see that from you Opey...


Yeah, their songs have themes. 'I GET ALL THE HOES IN MY ESCALADE AND OR RANGE ROVER WHILE SLANGIN' MY CDS INSTEAD OF COCAINE NOW..ILL SHOOT YOU NIGGER'


And Outwrite, id much rather to a song with real meaning (see Bottled Dreams, Forrest Whitaker) than a song about doing drugs and the like. Someone said it before but this is true; There are basically two types of underground artists, the ones that are shitty 'bounce' track rappers, and the ones that dont have the marketability. Well, fuck your Tech N9nes and your Jay-Z's and Twistas, ill take someone with real talent and songs that actually mean something.
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