Originally Posted by Tha Q.

ahhhhh...but here's the problem with your "arguments"


#1...Boyles Laws...laws of inert gases and anything regarding AIR is a moot point...you can apply a law to anything you choose to apply it to...My argument is that Boyles Laws applies to "somthing" that has been experienced that you all call AIR...But, can you prove that "air" exists? No one can truly see air. You can not see atoms. Therefore, you don't know it exists. All you know exists is something that exibits some characteritics of matter that people have arbitrarily decided to call "air"...If you correlate this to ghosts, then I can argue that at least people have claimed to "see" them...People have "felt" it...and people use various meters and monitors to measure paranormal--read: energy--activity...So, air only exists by definition only...A paranormal psychologist has every right to claim ghosts exists based on YOUR argument...that they've SEEN IT...that they have instruments that MEASURE it...that they see evidence of it's PRESENCE...




#2...You missed my point on this one...Word of mouth isn't what I was discrediting...I'm saying that even if I go to South Africa, that doesn't Prove it exists...that only proves that I experience "something" that has been called "South Africa"...If JOHN DOE has never been outside of bumfuck Lousiana and believes me, then he is dumb. If he travels to South Africa, then he can make the argument that it exists...But, that doesn't PROVE it exists...Therefore, how can you say people who claim to have "experienced" ghosts are vaild?...If that's the case, then I can say people who "claim" to have seen or been to South Africa are invalid and are suffering from some induced hysteria...

The facts are evident: people experience many things that they interpret in different ways...U can always define laws to validate a point you're trying to prove...Im just saying DON'T discredit someone who's experienced something that you haven't had the opportunity to yet...for what it's worth...which is all

JUST

RELATIVE.


thank you very much

Originally Posted by lyricalflowz

I've seen ghosts before though. lol

Originally Posted by ~Lady Fiya~

They do exist i seen ghosts before... as a child and lately, they look like regular people who can't fucking talk.

In my old house, some guy died.. i had a dream he had 2 daughters, a dog and he didn't have a wife from what i saw.. i woke up and saw him standin above me while i was lying in the bed.. and every night he'd walk back and forth around my bed.. So i moved my bed and he stayed in that area for some reason.. then he left for a good week and one night i said my prayers and went to sleep.. and i felt something touch my leg and thighs.. i thought it was nothing, i was just trippin, this dude snatched me off the bed and i hit the floor hard. So i torn up pieces of an old bible and put it around my bed and everytime me and this dude would start fightin, i'd say something like this ain't your room no more, and start recitin Bible verses, he get pissed and start goin at me, and i'd be shouting verses and threatening the ghost all thru the night.. sayin stuff like greater is "He that is in me, i rebuke in the name of Jesus, go somewhere else i ain't scared of you" to a point where my ma was like oh hell naw, time to leave this house.. I wasn't givin up my bedroom for a dead thing and wasn't bout to get violated by a ghost... not to mention spiritual warfare is no joke. That's another rainy day.

You can't tell me ghosts aren't real, after i done seen them bitter ones that was enuff. Those who haven't experienced encounters with ghosts and such, just be glad.

Originally Posted by ~Lady Fiya~

see i have to disagree, i had a reddish brown bruise on my thigh from hittin the hard floor when that happened to me... and no one just flies off the bed and damage themselves to a point where they get a bruise.. did i record it, no.. i didn't expect to get tossed off a soft Queen sized bed by something only me and my brother had seen in that house.. do some people exaggerate most likely.. there's not always a scientific explanation to everything. I know what i saw and i'm far from any mental problems and such.. it's one of those things where you believe it, when it happens to you. you can think i'm lyin and writin all this for the hell of it, but i'm tellin what's from my experience... but y'all can go on with y'all regular discussion. I just said my relation to part of that. And I'm tired as hell. I'll holla tomorrow or something.