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Old 01-21-04, 05:21 PM   #61
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Why do they have to be married to be happy? That makes no sense.



They just wanna be cool like the heterosexual couples!!! But they can never be cool, they will always be, Un-Kosher, Unnatural, and marriage is a natural thing. But I think we all just need to sit back and ask ourselves...
What Would Jesus Do, he would say no, I can almost guaruntee it... Then he would cleanse them of their unnatural ways... Be Straight My Child...
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Old 01-21-04, 05:51 PM   #62
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Old 01-21-04, 05:51 PM   #63
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Old 01-21-04, 05:53 PM   #64
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I think the bigger question to be asked is if they should be allowed to adopt children.
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Old 01-21-04, 05:54 PM   #65
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Old 01-21-04, 05:59 PM   #66
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I dont like gay people but thats me its none of my buissnes what someone wants to do wit their life or in the privacy of their own home. If they wonna get married then ok none of my buissnes they should be able to.U can do anythin u want as long as u dont throw yo shit in my face, like when they have the huge gay parades, see now thats a bit too much, like do whatevery want but dont force me to watch and interfere wit my life. So yes they should be able to.
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Old 01-21-04, 06:28 PM   #67
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Bouncy dog is a fucking moron,

thats the exact attitude that shows why the country is so fucked up, your SCARED that gays are gonna take over...lmmfao

"who is to say..blah blah...then guy girl weddings will one day not happen"

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dont make me get deep into this subject....let it be, if they wanna get married let them get married, who does it affect?

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I just explained what it would effect did you not understand the complex issue's such an action would raise? Just try to use that neuro processor for more than banter and bullshit, then you might understand from where I ground my agruements.


You just commited politcal suicide with that statement. Calling me a moron when not one of you could argue my points. I stated them a few pages back, clear and consise, yet not one of you kids can touch them. Alka tracks on a personaly level your cool, but going out and calling me an idot is plain retarded. If you want to debate me on this and expose your mental capcity and flaws in your political stand point be my guess. I am sure more of the respected members on RB will side with my points and arguements. Go ahead get into to a detailed debate, I have no worries about that what so ever. I also know you kids calling stupid would not dare do that in the real world, I would decimate your politcal stand points. Not to mention break you in half...
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Old 01-21-04, 06:44 PM   #68
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^ok there, break me in half over the internet mr big mbad moderator.

The complex issues it woudl raise? What about the first amendment? Does banning gays from marrying not go AGAINST that?

but yeah your right, maybe we need to add some more amendments because the bill of rights and constitution dopes not apply to all...sorta like how we actually had to ammend it to include blacks...and then ammend it to include women, because the term ALL PEOPLE did not include them...as it does not include gays right now.

but go ahead and decimate me mr politician, your the man.

dont be mad cause history is repeating itself and we are once again realizing that we have left certain people out of our "freedom to do as you wish" documents. It happens, thats why we make those unecessary amendments such as #15 which was unecesary to begin with.

But thats the GREAT OL usa for ya

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Old 01-21-04, 06:46 PM   #69
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ok dawg the first thread i saw from u said that nas sucks. then i see this one... the 2 really explain a lot about each other
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Old 01-21-04, 06:51 PM   #70
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if they can let a convict fresh outta jail regain some of his/her privileges, and the ability to marry, then why the FUCK can't two upstanding homosexual people marry...hell...as long as they don't blaze it in public or whatever i think they should be able to do whatever the hell they wanna do...i have no problems with it at all...bush is an ass
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Old 01-21-04, 06:54 PM   #71
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it just disgusts me.......honestly gay marriage....well jus sickening if you think about it....and another thing...as long as im not going to the wedding. lol and whos going to be the girl lol........just sickening.........BLA...CLOSE THIS SHIT....gays disgust me...i dont hate them...i just think its sickening....if you saw a gay try hittin on u...wtf would u do...let him try to expose u..or ull hit is ass for touching u..shit wheres women when u need them at a time like this...
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Old 01-21-04, 06:54 PM   #72
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I don't really have a problem with it, they can do what they want. I don't see why they need to get married anyways, other than financial reasons, but if they need to do it they need to, it's their lives, their call.
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Old 01-21-04, 06:59 PM   #73
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Why do they have to be married to be happy? That makes no sense.


Yet many hetrosexuals see it as a consolidating factor to being happy.

It really comes down to human nature. Integration. Not wanting to be on the 'outside'. If one was to make 'seperate' laws in place of marriage for homosexuals. They'd still feel left out. Not fully part of society.

That's their core persepctive. Along with the whole legal issues of inheritance, benefits etc.

Though of course one does appreciate the other side's view. Of it breaking the sancity of marriage. In a sense, bastardising it. It's human nature to feel threatened by such things. Especially when that side see's the whole 'homosexual' thing as so 'unnatural' and even 'illogical'. Along with the centuries of stigma attached to marriage. Of it being a natural part of hetrosexual relationships and therefore re-productioun. Normality.

I think it's more a matter of 'Is society ready to accept such things for their children to grow up around...especially in this current climate..


On a seperate note. I caught a remark whilst skim reading. And i agree, the left wing does seem to struggle to 'find the target'. To be incisive. Instead shooting off at all directions.

But why? Maybe the right wing is suffocating it? Becoming so strong that the left becomes ever more desperate?

Though the dust is settling.
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Gay people should be able to get married...I really don't care...Im a Christian guy and according to my faith it's wrong..but i'd just be a hypocrite when i commit sins myself...let he who is without sin cast the first stone..ain't us...ain't gay people..so i guess we can all just agree to disagree.......besides....who wants to live in a wordl without lesbians
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Old 01-21-04, 08:08 PM   #75
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^ok there, break me in half over the internet mr big mbad moderator.

The complex issues it woudl raise? What about the first amendment? Does banning gays from marrying not go AGAINST that?

but yeah your right, maybe we need to add some more amendments because the bill of rights and constitution dopes not apply to all...sorta like how we actually had to ammend it to include blacks...and then ammend it to include women, because the term ALL PEOPLE did not include them...as it does not include gays right now.

but go ahead and decimate me mr politician, your the man.

dont be mad cause history is repeating itself and we are once again realizing that we have left certain people out of our "freedom to do as you wish" documents. It happens, thats why we make those unecessary amendments such as #15 which was unecesary to begin with.

But thats the GREAT OL usa for ya

decimate away


I hope your not taking this as hate or beef, I was just commenting on the fact that thease kids are calling me stupid when I was trying to add some calrity to the issue. That was not directly aimed at you alk... As I mentined in the thread prioviously, I do understand the need for gays to have the benifits that married couple do. My entire point is that, we as a country do not bend for those activist that disagree with the current defineition of marriage. It would not be fair the the mass majority that are against any latering of the constitution. Especially by those small numbers who want it changed. Let's speak pure fact for the moment. Fact one, America has an overwhelming majority agaisnt the changing of the constitution as it defines marriage now. Fact two, if the majority of americans felt this was the right thing to do, then it would be addressed. Yet this is not the case. End of arguement, and feeble attempts to challange my statements. I made them based on fact not presumption and emotion. Basically it would be a crime for some 12 activist judges to hold the American peoples constitution hostage. It would be a siege on everything this country stands for and built on. So Alk, can you not admit this? Is this not a fact? Of course it is, never did the founding fathers mean for the majority to be over ruled by the agenda of a few. As marriage is defined today, protects us from certain social and econimcs problems that can and will result from redefineing the institution of marriage. Could you not see that in my post?
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