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View Poll Results: Should Barry Bonds' homerun record be counted?
Yes, he earned it 3 60.00%
No, he cheated 2 40.00%
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Old 05-28-06, 10:09 PM   #16
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back wen aaron and ruth were playin they prolly didnt even know wat steroids were


No,their were no steriods in Ruth's days.
But guess what?
His records are FAR more tainted than Bonds.
Just remember,in his time,Blacks and Hispanics were not allowed in the major leagues.So the competition was waaaaaaaaay inferior.So have to ask...would Babe hit 714 if he faced pitchers like Jose Mendez or John Donaldson?I think not.

Ruth would face the same pitchers over and over again.Since situational specialists coming out the bullpen was less prominent back then.Obviouly that makes things easier.Seeing the same pitchers over and over again...

As for Aaron,one of his teamates(davey johnson) said everyone was on the juice back then.Including Henry himself.Can we believe that one guy?I dunno...
But Jose Canseco(a steriod user himself) said when a player excels at an old age,that's ussually a sign.Obviously,Bonds is guilty of this.But so is Hank Aaron.At age 39,he hit 40 home runs...........in 392 AB....Think about that..

I think Bonds used steroids.But so did 90% of the players.And it's clear he started using it in 2002.But remember,he was a first ballot Hall of Famer BEFORE HE USED IT.He would have 500 home runs anyways.And he would be a 500 hr,500 Sb player.That's first ballot.

Yes,he should be recognized in the record books.We all THINK he used steriods,based on his age,performance,size..etc.But we don't know.He's never admitted it,nor failed a drug test.Guys like Palmerio and endless minor leaguers get caught after taking the drug test.But Barry hasn't.Unless you think he's on some undetactable stuff.Which would be as dumb as believing that Aaron and Ruth's numbers are clean.
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Old 05-28-06, 10:18 PM   #17
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word^^^ppl like mim dont know wut they talkin bout
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Old 05-28-06, 10:27 PM   #18
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No,their were no steriods in Ruth's days.
But guess what?
His records are FAR more tainted than Bonds.
Just remember,in his time,Blacks and Hispanics were not allowed in the major leagues.So the competition was waaaaaaaaay inferior.So have to ask...would Babe hit 714 if he faced pitchers like Jose Mendez or John Donaldson?I think not.

Ruth would face the same pitchers over and over again.Since situational specialists coming out the bullpen was less prominent back then.Obviouly that makes things easier.Seeing the same pitchers over and over again...

As for Aaron,one of his teamates(davey johnson) said everyone was on the juice back then.Including Henry himself.Can we believe that one guy?I dunno...
But Jose Canseco(a steriod user himself) said when a player excels at an old age,that's ussually a sign.Obviously,Bonds is guilty of this.But so is Hank Aaron.At age 39,he hit 40 home runs...........in 392 AB....Think about that..

I think Bonds used steroids.But so did 90% of the players.And it's clear he started using it in 2002.But remember,he was a first ballot Hall of Famer BEFORE HE USED IT.He would have 500 home runs anyways.And he would be a 500 hr,500 Sb player.That's first ballot.

Yes,he should be recognized in the record books.We all THINK he used steriods,based on his age,performance,size..etc.But we don't know.He's never admitted it,nor failed a drug test.Guys like Palmerio and endless minor leaguers get caught after taking the drug test.But Barry hasn't.Unless you think he's on some undetactable stuff.Which would be as dumb as believing that Aaron and Ruth's numbers are clean.

yes they also didnt let any of the negro league records in.
there was a black player i forget his name who hit 80 home runs in one season
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Old 05-29-06, 09:54 PM   #19
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bonds in no way will ever take the spots of ruth or aaron....

nobody will ever look at him the same as them..unless theyre from san fran...and u know how them fucks are anyways...


BUT...i do hope he passes aaron..why?..because i have a nice lil autographed barry bonds baseball bat....engraved with certificate of authenticity....got it when i was in 3rd grade....best believe im puttin that son of a bitch on ebay the day he breaks the record or dies.....word
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Old 05-29-06, 10:30 PM   #20
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bonds in no way will ever take the spots of ruth or aaron....

nobody will ever look at him the same as them..unless theyre from san fran...and u know how them fucks are anyways...


BUT...i do hope he passes aaron..why?..because i have a nice lil autographed barry bonds baseball bat....engraved with certificate of authenticity....got it when i was in 3rd grade....best believe im puttin that son of a bitch on ebay the day he breaks the record or dies.....word

wait till he dies but wait a few years
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Old 05-30-06, 12:14 AM   #21
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I'ts cuz he black!

















haha...SIKE

I think they should put an asterisk by the stat.
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Old 05-30-06, 08:44 AM   #22
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Bonds probably was juicin before 2002 if u look at when he started hitting homeruns and his size got so massive...... im sure some of u know that until Bonds got a few years into the majors, that he was NEVER a homerun hitter..... he never even led his own team in homeruns until he joined the MLB which is extemely suspicious.... he was a always a basehitter.... and a great one at that, but we're not dealin with if he would still be in the hall of fame if he juiced or not...... we're only dealing with whether he juiced or not (which in my mind happened beyond a doubt) and if he did, should his record count.......

which should be hell fuckin no....... unless u wanna do some asterik shit..... which they prolly will do even if it is never actually proven he used steroids (which i agree, would be a shame)

and to NK..... Ruth was subject to the times he lived in.... it is not his fault that he never faced any black or hispanic pitchers... however, taking steroids is a choice.... u cant blame ruth for sumthin that he had almost no control over.....
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Old 05-30-06, 08:50 AM   #23
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haha...SIKE
I think they should put an asterisk by the stat.

that is stupid they didnt put one when roger maris hit his 61 home run
what makes you think there gonna do it now!!!
and hes has said he has never knowingly took steroids who knows we willl never find out
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Old 05-30-06, 08:55 AM   #24
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and they never added a asterisk to his 73season home runs wahat makes you think this is gonna change
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Old 05-30-06, 08:55 AM   #25
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that is stupid they didnt put one when roger maris hit his 61 home run
what makes you think there gonna do it now!!!
and hes has said he has never knowingly took steroids who knows we willl never find out


Isn't saying he didn't knowingly take steroids like saying you didn't knowingly get a prostate examine?


Don't they inject it in ya ass. He's not dumb is he?
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Old 05-30-06, 09:14 AM   #26
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You think you're going nowhere
when you're walking down the street
Acting like you just don't care
when life could be so sweet
So why you wanna be like that,
This is nothing new
You're not foolin no one
you're not even foolin you
So walk a little slower
and open up your eyes
sometimes its so hard to see
the good things pass you by
There may never be a sign
no flashing neon light
tellin you to make your move
or when the time is right (so)

why not (Why not)
take crazy chance
why not (Why not)
do a crazy dance
if you lose the moment
you might lose a lot
so why not why not

(why not take a crazy chance, why not take a crazy chance)

You always dress in yellow
when you wanna dress in gold
instead of listenin' to your heart
you do just what you're told
if you keep waiting where you are
oh what you'll never know
so let's just get into your car,
and go baby go! (so)

why not (Why not)
take crazy chance
why not (Why not)
do a crazy dance
if you lose the moment
you might lose a lot
so why not why not

Ohhhhh!I could be the one for you
Ohhh yeah! yes maybe no
Ohhh!! It could be the thing to do
all I'm sayin is you gotta let me know

Ah yaya yaya yayaya

You'll never get to heaven
or even to LA
if you don't beleive there's a way

(why not take a star from the sky
why not spread your wings and fly)

Oh! It might take a little
and it might take alot
But why not why not

why not
(take crazy chance)
take crazy chance
why not
(do a crazy dance)
do a crazy dance
if you lose the moment
you might lose a lot
so why not why not
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Old 05-30-06, 09:33 AM   #27
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your crazy spul^

but bonds should be recognized, you cant negate 715 homers as a farce
regardless he still did something all those other muscle heads aint even close too
But it dont matter, either Alex Rodriguez or someone like Pujols will be the overall leader in like 10 years anyway
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Old 05-30-06, 09:46 AM   #28
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^^^^^^^ agreed........ i think pujols is def on track to pass up everyone...... hes hit like atleast 40 homeruns in every season in the Majors..... crazy shit... kinda like Sosa with the mad consistency until he fell off and/or stopped takin steroids

and im a chicago cubs fan, but i can still admit that sosa was prolly juicin, especially with his major fall off after they cracked down on usin steroids
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yea pujols or a rod will take it over
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Ichiro will be the HR leader in a couple yrs. WOOO GO MARINERS!!!!
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