well I already PMed Zone about it but while that is stating the obvious, it doesn't make it right to call a mixed person a black person. This coming from someone who talked to a family of mixed people for years and never once called them black or white... only their parents..

and as I also told him in the PM, people are just fucking lazy and don't want to get into it. Dark skin with african american traits (hair type and brown eyes etc.) are simply light skinned black people, but a lot of other humans wouldn't say black either, they'd say brown.

And brown is open for interpretation if you wish - But Obama is mixed. The debate in this thread began when a few morons tried to say that their president was Black, when obviously, he was not.

He was Brown at most and Mixed at least.

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Right, but now that we have one thats President people is stressin the fact that he's MIXED.

THATS what Im sayin is bullshit.

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a Mulatto person pulls a drive bye, he's considered a Black man.

a Mulatto person becomes president, he's only half Black, and just as much white as he is Black.

riiight.

2v, this may not be how you think. you might just say mixed either way. but this is how most people are. of all tha Mulatto people i know and have bin around growing up, i've never once heard anybody, including themselves, refer to them as being half Black and half white. they're always considered Black. shit, i know people who are 1/4th Black and everybody still just says they're Black. werd

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1/4th black isn't an argument though because if your grandparent was black and everyone else hispanic then you'd be hispanic period

I'm talking mixed.

Generalize the asians, black people, and white people now..

Hell, even Chinese and Japanese generalize themselves away from each other, I know asians saying they're mixed and then going on to say a mixture of Chinese and Japanese but generalizing it to Asians...

But lets say you have a hispanic and a white person that has kids, their kid is gonna be light skinned cuz a lot of modern day hispanic have kinda milky brown skin, will you call the kid white? Maybe.. Hispanic? could be.. there are both light and dark hispanics, but you'd generally consider them mixed. That's my demagoguery to your situation.

And, the mixed family I know, you wouldn't be able to tell they have a black father, you can say black dominates all you want, racist fucks, but these kids were fucking white to me 'till I saw their father. Lol. Now they're mixed and I won't ever call them otherwise....

So go ahead, call all the kids in your hood who are 1 half white and 1 half black just flat out Black... It doesn't change my point at all and it sure as hell doesn't turn my point into a perspective..

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Dog..
fuck them long ass 3 paragraphs posts
it aint even shit to argue about or dispute
that mix shit dont fly nigga..
Barack Obama is black, and he's our President.
Point black, period.

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I think himself...?

ZONE...

Ignore these jaded Mccain supporters.



They're just mad a nigger mad it into the white house.


LOL





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^^ What better way to prove to the unbelieving southerners that we have a puppet president?

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ok 2v, u have one example of one family where it appears that it is questionable whether the father actually is the father....

im saying in general with our society... as kool pointed out as well.... a mixed (and by mixed i mean 1/2 black 1/2 white... not these stupid 1/2 japanese 1/2 chinese, or 1/2 hispanic 1/2 white where the skin color and physical traits arent drastically different) person is referred to as Black... and then with tiger woods, and now obama, not until they do something exceptional is everyone like "is half black half white, or half black half thai".... but the random mixed kid is black and brought up and treated that way

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Then I guess in that situation it depends on where the person grew up - in a white or black society. My mixed friends grew up in a mixed white society so I call them mixed. I guess if they grew up in a black society they would prefer I call them black.

I had a chat with a black friend about it earlier and she said that even if a white person has a little bit of black in them, blacks would accept them as a black person regardless, in a black society.

And I told her that's fucked up because by doing that, it's being made into a racial issue, where the random 100% white kid would be subject to circumstance before he could get accepted. When in fact it takes many generations of reproducing to return to strictly white or black DNA and it doesn't change the person for who they are at that point in time, especially the 50% kids, who are without a doubt of Mixed ancestry lines, and at that point in time it lies in the perspective of black or mixed white society.

Are the inhabitants of the mixed white society or the mixed black society correct to call the person either Mixed, or Black?

Definitely a racial issue, regardless of scientific input declaring a 50% blood-line on both sides.

You see what I'm sayin'? It's like segregation all over again but without physical force. That shit's imprinted in people's heads. I never once called a mixed kid black and I won't ever, unless of course they asked me the color of their skin and they were darker than brown.

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You can't have a white dad and white grandparents and black mom and black grandparents all kissing you and calling you family at a family reunion if you weren't black and white at the same fucking time. lol

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i fully understand your point that it is fucked up and is, in a sense, segregation of perception... my point is simply that until we start to see the everyday mixed person as, well, Mixed, you gotta call Obama black... its almost unfair to do so otherwise

although it can be argued that Obama could be the start of that change in perception....

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Why does 2V insist of showing how ignorant he is by typing MORE and MORE and MORE.


Quit already.


No one accepts your stupidity except other DUMB ASS Mccain supporters.

And, well, like Mccain, they are LOSERS.



Die




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Funny that you call me a McCain supporter when in every thread I was begging people to vote Obama.

You're an idiot.