LOL...
cant yall see the difnce?
hip hop = lyrical artform
rap = the mainstream game
club bangers = not hip hop

there is no problem with hip hop.......there are diffrent definitions of the game.....an the RAP game is the mainstream side of it, hip hop is the lyrical unsigned hype side, with battling, an real lyrics, hip hop an rap are generally considerd diffrent things in my opinnon..

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^ yep.

I'd say neither of those are really responsible for what some might the call
the degradation of hip-hop. I don't even consider the club demographic
hip-hop to be completely honest. In my opinion it seems more pop than
anything; ie crunk, etc...And as for gunplay that's really non-applicable.
There has always been that sort of content in songs; I mean if you live it
then of course you are going to rap about. I think it's the glorification of it
that's a bad thing and it really sends the wrong message. The shitty part
being is that's what you get from a lot of main stream artists like 50 for
example and that's where most derive their stereotypes as rap being a bunch
of gun toting thugs. It's different though if you can talk about it and have
a message or make light of it in the respect that it's a problem that needs solving.
Anyways, I feel like the excessive commercializtion is the worst thing for
hip-hop. True, people do make music for it to be heard, and be heard by
lots of peeps, but i feel money plays into it too much these days. People have
become more concerned with the latest beefs, seeling the most records,
contracts etc. rather than making good music.

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hip hop has no problem because like the dude said rap and hip hop and fuckin crunk music are all different things but until the day when the masses of cattle are no longer led around by the nose ring mainstream garbage and dance shit will reign supreme.......and theres no way to stop that except maybe through education

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club bangers...generally speaking, no good lyricism comes out of club music...it's just to make pre-pubescent white girls shake their so-called "asses" at shitty high school dances...but those who answer this question will do so based upon what part of music they like, so practically all answers will be completely biased...

but, in conclusion, i would just like to say that Drama Queen is hot and i want her to have my children

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Personally I see hip hop and rap as two seperate things now. Rap is all the commercial "ThRoW yA hands UP!" bullshit, hip hop is more Last Emporer, Supernatural, Binary Star, Copy Write.... More underground. Just my Opinion.

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I would have to say Club Bangers, that wasn't how it was back in the day but like they say sex sales

when i'm in the club... i wanna hear whatever makes me move with the honies... when i'm with my boys... sometimes i can tolerate the gun play... but if that's all you about then to me you a garbage emcee... i also like the mos def's and the rass kass'... the rakim's.... it's all about what mood you in.... but yeah... that ABC rhyme shyt?.... i hate that with a passion...no complexity whatsoever and kats be like... "Yo, , son is dirty...he da truth!!!" producers should start getting picky about who they give a hot track to... too many hot beats..not enough hot lyricists... and THAT'S the REAL problem!!! werd