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Old 03-20-05, 01:48 AM   #1
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Ejoy.. there is a conversration about 50 cent how he's wack and there is proff in there.. and basiclly some education on how to be better in rap..

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TripleN4554: I really don't messure myself against RV heads
TripleN4554: I respect everyone

Six Five Oe: lol
Six Five Oe: y u have to be the way u are?
Six Five Oe: lol
TripleN4554: how u mean?
Six Five Oe: y u got to be a good person
TripleN4554: well isn't that the way ya suppose to be?
TripleN4554: an correction
TripleN4554: I am not a good person...I am just capabile of kindness
TripleN4554: as well as equal viciousness

Six Five Oe: lol true
Six Five Oe: u arn't that good
Six Five Oe: ********
TripleN4554: rolmfao
TripleN4554: exactly
TripleN4554: but jus cuz I rap battle doesn't mean I have to be a arrogant asshole

Six Five Oe: true
TripleN4554: modesty is always appreciated
Six Five Oe: lol
Six Five Oe: yup it is
TripleN4554: I personally can't be a fan of someone that is their own biggest fan
Six Five Oe: lol
Six Five Oe: yea like cali huh
Six Five Oe: n soc
TripleN4554: word
TripleN4554: thats why I killed soc....becuz he's a arrogant asshole
TripleN4554: only way they learn is by having to eat their words^^^

Six Five Oe: hahaha
Six Five Oe: yup
TripleN4554: he was even bragging after I posted about how he was confident after our battle.....den got KOed
TripleN4554: so I am happy now....an hav eno beef wit him

Six Five Oe: lol good finally
Six Five Oe: hmm do you think Jin is good?
Six Five Oe: as a battler and a song artist?
TripleN4554: as a battler he spits alot of clearly prewritten generic punches.........as a song writer he really doesn't have much to say....after he got signed I copped a couple of his tracks on mixtapes an his songs are subpar to me..I expected more becuz even tho his freestyle punches were prewritten they were very creative & witty so I would overlook the prewitten factor jus becuz the punch itself was ill then I heard him do songs an I was dissappointed cuz I figured if he can prewrite ill punches he could write ill songsSix Five Oe: lol
Six Five Oe: yeah huh..
Six Five Oe: y u think he pre-wrote it?
TripleN4554: becuz his punches don't be personalized....I have listened to alot of jin battles an studided them so i know....an he spits punches about his opponents girls or how ill he is....whcih is generic an can be said to anyoneSix Five Oe: true
Six Five Oe: its funny though.. how u see this but his label didn't..
Six Five Oe: u think they did?
TripleN4554: see what?
Six Five Oe: see that he pre-wrote that?
Six Five Oe: cuz i sorta saw taht
TripleN4554: yea I bet they did....but they could see the wittyness of his writing so they signed him to write more witty linesSix Five Oe: hahaha
Six Five Oe: yeah thats prolly true huh
TripleN4554: yea great freestyle battlers usually suck as writers an great rap song writers usually suck as battlers...then there are those that are average at both...alot of great writers prewrite battle verses....labels usually go fro great song writers cuz battles are useless when u get signed an try to sell albums to peopleSix Five Oe: hmm
Six Five Oe: damn ur smart as hell man lol
Six Five Oe: i never knew this lol
TripleN4554: I jus been in rap game awhile
Six Five Oe: well sorta.. thats why i topical battle then text.. cuz topical improves u in song writting better
Six Five Oe: lol how long?
TripleN4554: since I was 15 I been battling in front of people an learnign from other guys doing it....I started writing rhymes at 11 but didn't show no one til 15
TripleN4554: <----I am a songwriter....an a decent freestyle battler....but songwriting is my forte
Six Five Oe: wow
Six Five Oe: how old are u now?
TripleN4554: 19
Six Five Oe: hmm
Six Five Oe: so four years
Six Five Oe: i've been doing this for 2 years..
Six Five Oe: so i guess i got a long way
TripleN4554: yea it takes time
TripleN4554: I've made my biggest strides this past year
TripleN4554: I finally starting finding my style an rap identity this year
TripleN4554: after 4 yrs of experimenting

Six Five Oe: wow.. thats long time though..
Six Five Oe: finding your own style is hard..cuz how u know wut ur own style is??
TripleN4554: losing 35% of my battles, an recording tracks that I will never show to anyone for 4 yrs I am finally getting it to a point where I am considered above average....I was considered very good/ jus good..average not special before.......now people are starting to say shit like u should be signed..so I am use to being the dude that was jus good enough to get into a cypher wit the ill catz that no one expected to win to now being called to battle cuz people wanna see me eat catz...its weird an I don't like it much
TripleN4554: finding ya style is jus finding the persona ya comfortable wit
TripleN4554: finding a voice that u like over beats
TripleN4554: an others do too

Six Five Oe: hmm.. i guess i found one but no one likes em
Six Five Oe: like you know them slow kind of song i've been making
Six Five Oe: i like those kind of songs to make more then others.. but alot of peeps espcially from rv seem to not like em
TripleN4554: I like emotional songs too
Six Five Oe: only ppl from kmy skewl too
TripleN4554: u have to learn how to make your emotion felt
Six Five Oe: i mean only peeps frmo my skewl like it
Six Five Oe: oh..
Six Five Oe: lol never thought of it like that.. haha thanx man
Six Five Oe: damn.. i hope one day i could be as good as u
TripleN4554: lmao
TripleN4554: strive t be better than me

Six Five Oe: im trying lol
TripleN4554: I am a average emcee
Six Five Oe: nah ur not
TripleN4554: I am not a great
Six Five Oe: lol yeah u are man
Six Five Oe: lol for once don't be modest plz
Six Five Oe: lol
Six Five Oe: in my skewl im considered the best there
Six Five Oe: but then if u could kill me..
Six Five Oe: then damn ur hella good lol
TripleN4554: who says I can kill u?
TripleN4554: anybody can lose on anyday

Six Five Oe: lol yeah
Six Five Oe: but in freestyling u'd beat me
TripleN4554: maybe, maybe not
TripleN4554: we won't know til we battle

Six Five Oe: lol yeah
Six Five Oe: but i know ur better
Six Five Oe: its 4 years against 2 years of experience
Six Five Oe: lol
TripleN4554: NEVER EVER THINK LIKE THAT^^^^^^^^Six Five Oe: huh? but its true man
TripleN4554: u must always think u are "THE SHIT" when u battle.....I am modest but I am still confident in my abilities...if u go into a battle expecting to lose....U WILL
Six Five Oe: reallY?
Six Five Oe: but..
Six Five Oe: well i guess.. its just amazing though man
Six Five Oe: like how a person could come out there with creative rhymes out of no where.. wen i can't even come out with one
TripleN4554: its all jus memories of shit you'll already written
TripleN4554: if u write ill shit...u will free ill shit

Six Five Oe: reallY? i thought they just go up n free it
Six Five Oe: lol
Six Five Oe: hmm never thought if it like that
TripleN4554: yea u free...like u don't pre-write
TripleN4554: but all those hours of writing rhymes embeds rhymes in ya memory banks.....jus like basketball....u practice for hours in a gym...u don't plan the ill crossover u do but all those hours of practice embedded in ya brain how to move ya body to do that ill cross

Six Five Oe: haha damn.. wow thanx.. u with your metaphors
Six Five Oe: so umm
Six Five Oe: like i freestyle rhymes that i've wrote before.. like how can i rhyme with intelligence in a free if i haven't before rite?
TripleN4554: practice
TripleN4554: freestyle constantly
TripleN4554: an write constantly
TripleN4554: so u are constantly learning new rhymes an constantly learning how to improv ill rhymes
TripleN4554: if u write basic you'll spit basic
TripleN4554: I freestyle whenever I'm bored..about anything...I freestyle about a T.V. show I'm watching or picking my nose or walkign down the steps.....the more u do it the more u get use to it

Six Five Oe: lol
Six Five Oe: i always free when im in class like about how the teach isboring
Six Five Oe: but then its like always hard to think of new rhymes.. or rhymes ur friends have never heard before..
TripleN4554: no it isn't jus things u neve rheard before
TripleN4554: READ

Six Five Oe: read?
Six Five Oe: lol
TripleN4554: the more interesting shit u know the more interesting ya lines will get
TripleN4554: if u dumb how u gon have complex lines?

Six Five Oe: true
Six Five Oe: u know the last poets?
Six Five Oe: or heard of them?
TripleN4554: the one sin common's new video?
Six Five Oe: i think so
Six Five Oe: well yeah
Six Five Oe: my teacher is best friends with them
Six Five Oe: and he told em to come to our skewl... n wen someone asked how u guys become great poets.. he said
Six Five Oe: the number one reason is to read
Six Five Oe: read as much as you can and love it.. because you learn everything from reading
Six Five Oe: but i didn't believe it till you said it too lol
TripleN4554: yea man its very tru
Six Five Oe: wow thats tite.. b
Six Five Oe: but i guess its good that i read then
Six Five Oe: well starting to read alot lately
Six Five Oe: you think its bad to use a dictionary?
Six Five Oe: like to find words
TripleN4554: no
TripleN4554: its great idea
TripleN4554: I've done it

Six Five Oe: lol
Six Five Oe: some ppl sed its stupid
Six Five Oe: if ur a natural good topical head u don't need a dsictinoary
Six Five Oe: lol..
TripleN4554: there obviously idiots
Six Five Oe: lol
TripleN4554: however u don't wanna get too deep..cuz I have an alot times people will say its wack jus cuz they don't understand it
Six Five Oe: hmm..true
TripleN4554: thats way canibus felloff^^^^people couldn't comprehend his lyrics so they said it was wack cuz they're dumb & this is why 50 cent is the top sellign emcee right now
Six Five Oe: hahaha
Six Five Oe: lmao.. can i qoute that?
TripleN4554: sure
Six Five Oe: lmao..
Six Five Oe: wow.. true though
Six Five Oe: his lyrics are too simple
TripleN4554: they are less than simple
TripleN4554: they're borderline retarded

Six Five Oe: haha
Six Five Oe: do u know any creativitie in his lines/
TripleN4554: nope
TripleN4554: they're all blah
TripleN4554: but he knows he to melodisized his voice to make catchy hooks...so pair that wit dre beats an he sells

Six Five Oe: yeah..
Six Five Oe: the way he does his melody is how he sells
Six Five Oe: thats wut i've been trying to do with my songs as u prolly sorta could tell.. but its hard as hell
TripleN4554: yea it took me a long time to grasp but once u do...music becomes so much easier to do
Six Five Oe: haha
Six Five Oe: yea hopefyully
Six Five Oe: can u do that yet?
TripleN4554: yea to a degree...I haven't perfected it but I am decent at it...people find my hooks catchy
Six Five Oe: yeah they are
Six Five Oe: you think its possible to make a hook as good as 50's with ne beat in the world?
TripleN4554: no...if the beta has no melody u can't
TripleN4554: an a;; of 50's hooks aren't good
TripleN4554: his new ones on his album suck

Six Five Oe: yeah his new ones realy do suck lol
Six Five Oe: i downloaded all the songs.. n regret doing it
TripleN4554: sames
Six Five Oe: lol
Six Five Oe: u download it?
TripleN4554: yea
TripleN4554: it sucked

Six Five Oe: lol
TripleN4554: even the beats weren't that great this time
Six Five Oe: yea cuz he didn't have dre's beats in his album
Six Five Oe: only like 1 or 2
Six Five Oe: thats why I think the games album is better because
Six Five Oe: dre basiclly made 70 percent of his beats
TripleN4554: yea
TripleN4554: games' album is def. better
TripleN4554: game is a way better emcee

Six Five Oe: lol yeah he is
Six Five Oe: itsfunny though how they collab
Six Five Oe: wen they crip n blood lol
Six Five Oe: or claim to be atleast
TripleN4554: 50 isn't a crip
Six Five Oe: lol
Six Five Oe: iono wut he is
TripleN4554: 50 wa snever in a gang
Six Five Oe: but they claim
Six Five Oe: oh haha forealz? then y would he get shot?
Six Five Oe: he prob got caught sleeping with a gay guys' husband
Six Five Oe: n wanted revenge
Six Five Oe: so shot him 9 times now regreting because of him (the shooter) 50 is famous
TripleN4554: yea the shooter made 50
TripleN4554: if 50 never got shot he's still nobody

Six Five Oe: yup
Six Five Oe: cuz then everyone got intterested in him
Six Five Oe: so i guess the beats are the most important part of an album huhj
TripleN4554: only if u are a weak emcee
TripleN4554: but beat plays a big role
TripleN4554: but if u pair a great beta wit a great emcee...that creates legends
TripleN4554: 50's jus a gimmick

Six Five Oe: yup
Six Five Oe: have you heard of frontline?
TripleN4554: naw
Six Five Oe: getting with E-A-ski?
TripleN4554: who dat?
Six Five Oe: they're like mainstream here in bay area aka Sanfransisco n oakland..
Six Five Oe: and they're lyrics r amazing
TripleN4554: word
Six Five Oe: but whawt really makes it stand out is the beat with it.. n after u told me to do studying i studied it.. i realized taht the beat is hella importnant
Six Five Oe: cuz i got an acapella version n mixed it with a differ beat. n saw the song sucks with that different beat
Six Five Oe: so yeah.. cuz of u i study music now lol
TripleN4554: yea man u gotta follow before u can lead
Six Five Oe: and yeah.. oh yeah my poit was that.. they're famous because of the beat mixed with amazing lyrics.. n the stations compared it to mainstream n sed the mainstream sucked
Six Five Oe: haha yup..
Six Five Oe: how u think MLK became a good person
TripleN4554: exactly^^^
Six Five Oe: he followed his father.. so thats why imma study alot now.. n like.. ur like my mentor man lol
Six Five Oe: now im thinking smart haha thanx
TripleN4554: I know about MLK
TripleN4554: lol

Six Five Oe: lol..
TripleN4554: but yea man...nowadays in order to be unique u gotta spit about unique topics
TripleN4554: an have unique wordplay an punchlines
Six Five Oe: yup
TripleN4554: which means u gotta really think outside the box
TripleN4554: cuz most stuff has been done before

Six Five Oe: yeah i know.. cuz everyones doing creative things now n its hard to think of new
Six Five Oe: yeah thats true..
Six Five Oe: thats why all i do is listen to songs all day with beats n try to hear someones style n mix it with anothers to make it new
Six Five Oe: but i rarely do..
Six Five Oe: like im trying to mix kanye with frontline
Six Five Oe: very good lyrics n beat.. but with truth
TripleN4554: word
TripleN4554: good idea
TripleN4554: take your time tho
TripleN4554: don't get frustrated that after a week u not a great emcee....but patient & consistent with ya writing an you'll get there
Six Five Oe: hmm...so i shouldn't rush to do wut i just to u im trying to do huh
Six Five Oe: jst free n write w/e for a while
TripleN4554: free, write, record, listen & study
TripleN4554: do one or more of those everyday
Six Five Oe: hmm..
Six Five Oe: like before i record
Six Five Oe: i always rush it
Six Five Oe: like the 2 songs of mine u heard
Six Five Oe: they were all rushed
Six Five Oe: the guitar one
TripleN4554: thats badSix Five Oe: that one i only did the first verse that i took time to write.. the second verse was meant for another song.. n the last was from another song as well so i couldn't write i wanted to write
Six Five Oe: so it came out differently
Six Five Oe: so i guess thats why hell peeps sed the lyrics sucked
TripleN4554: yea man...u gotta slow down...write a song in parts
TripleN4554: don't sit down an force lyrics
TripleN4554: let the lyrics come to you
Six Five Oe: hm..
Six Five Oe: thanx man
Six Five Oe: is this bad too.. like how i have one word.. n just rhyme w/e with it..
Six Five Oe: like.. not thinking like.. damn even if this rhymes with it.. it doesn't show eough meaning
Six Five Oe: enough*
TripleN4554: yea u want everything to make sense an fit
TripleN4554: u want the story to develop
TripleN4554: an u want people to fully understand what ya saying an where the song is going

Six Five Oe: hmm.. yea thanx man
Six Five Oe: cuz the acoustic song.. all i wrote about was how she's beautiful and meant for me with out an actuall story
TripleN4554: well u shoulda fully explained how beautiful she is & why she is meant for u
TripleN4554: but yo man....I'm a have to talk wit u later son..I'm tired...so stay up man
TripleN4554: 1
TripleN4554 signed off at 9:55:40 PM.



well u shoulda fully explained how beautiful she is & why she is meant for u
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Old 03-20-05, 01:56 AM   #2
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Wow,I got a new respet for Triple N for real.
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Old 03-20-05, 04:31 AM   #3
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And Triple N can suck my niggity nuts.
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Triple N=my mentor..
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Old 03-20-05, 09:58 PM   #5
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Triple N= lies about his voice
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Old 03-21-05, 08:38 PM   #6
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TRIPLE N= its not his voice that makes him good..
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and that is triple singing.. he has no reason to lie
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Old 03-21-05, 08:48 PM   #8
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lol @ dat nigga thinkin 50 was in a gang

lol, dats classic, then he said "then y did he get shot"?

lmao, nice Triple, im feelin dis cat now, props

i hate dat niggaz say u tite jus cuzthey c u got a couple wins, true life
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yea good tips on the rap stuff triple but i have to disagree on the jin shit, then you havent seen a lot of battles of him...ive seen like 15 battles (video) and i have them all, and probably 10/15 of those battles he says a diss on the persons clothes and shit...jin spits off the top...he may have written punchlines but he memorized punches based on someones clothing...so if he notices someone is wearing timbs hell pull out this line he wrote or he could of freestyled it, "you wanna say im chinese son well heres a reminder/ check ya timbs they prolly say made in china"...you know so like atleast 80% of his battles he spits off the persons clothes or what the person said...im tellin u i got proof he spits off the top, and i agree about song writing abilities but ive heard 2 new jin songs like written and theyre real good cuz the songs are from his heart he talks about real shit, i think now the label isnt forcing him to do bs songs so he might be able to show his true writing skills now
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^^but yo, i have heard hella battles frim jin and i havent heard any real personals about the person, so i say fuck you and thats FINAL
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^lol noob...

and dick...you said you HEARD mad jin battles
how are you suppose to know if he did a personal on his clothes if you cant see his clothes, obviously u havent HEARD shit or SEEN shit because i have like 15 battles that jin disses people on their clothes and their verse...so stfu and get proof before u make a dumbass remark like that

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TRIPLE N= its not his voice that makes him good..


not wit rappin he knows what im talkin bout. lol. that wasnt dissin him. its somethin that happened on yahoo
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and that is triple singing.. he has no reason to lie


im not talkin bout the singing
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