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Old 08-05-05, 02:39 PM   #1
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Religious origions.

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My question is dealing with religious origions. I want to make a list of all religions that did not origionate as a sect of another belief.

I can think of:

Buddhism, Hinduism, Judaism, ..



Ok, I know people are going to say Christianity, catholics, etc. Technically they are in relation to Judaism with the exception that judist's believe the masiah has not come yet. I'm not looking at beliefs and traditions of the religions, I'm looking at the overall system (I.E christianity=god & satan, Buddhism=a real smart fat dude etc[im not too knowledgable on buddhism as you can tell]) But to my knowledge these are religions that have origional concepts and do not claim their origions as a sect from another religion.

I'm looking for a certain number of them which I think I already know the diget, but I need the names to check it. Dont ask why, just try and answer the question.
Thanks to any people who can help.
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Old 08-05-05, 03:39 PM   #2
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I dont know much about the hole religion deal, like this indepth... But I will be insterested to see what others say...
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Old 08-05-05, 04:04 PM   #3
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muslim originated from judaism too, so it shouldnt be on the list
the only two that you didnt name that i can think of are shinto and sikhism

i predict that this thread is going to go offtopic to a religious argument over whether god exists or what religion is "real" very soon
even non-religious threads eventually do (thx to denied truth and titobronsky), so this one doesnt stand a chance
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Muslims taken out... Cmon people, help a brutha out here..
If the number is what I think it is, then this is gonna be very interesting..
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Nos is trying to take over the world I believe.

But I do know budism is a search for inner peace.

if u needed to know about it...it has no god buddah was the teacher of it.

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mormonism

hare krishna-ism

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Nos is trying to take over the world I believe.

But I do know budism is a search for inner peace.

if u needed to know about it...it has no god buddah was the teacher of it.

I think

Yeah, buddhism I'm not too sure of, thats why I need peoples help to build this list. Maybe I'll move it to the lounge to get more of a response.
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mormonism

hare krishna-ism

word...


Mormans are not a religion, they are a dilusional cult.
They are also a sect of christianity which is a sect of judahism.

And the Hare Krishnas origionated in 1960. They are just idiots that dance around and make dicks of themselves. Not a true religion in my opinion either.
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mormons arent a sect of christianity...theyre a made up religion like scientology...
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mormons arent a sect of christianity...theyre a made up religion like scientology...


"The church of Jesus Christ and the latter day saints" (Mormons)

Sure sounds like a sect relating to judaism to me.
They use the same system, just have different belief's.
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most religions are interrelated such as judaism and christianity....christianity consists of many forms such as baptist, lutheran, mormon, all the way down to jehovahs witnesses....the funny thing is they all read from the same bible but they all use different sections of it to base and explain away their actions....even the amish read that same bible and look at their life.... hinduism is related to shintoism and many other forms.... if you really want to learn about things like this then read the bible and the koran and sun tzus art of war and a million different texts that explain reasons for religious convictions and find the shit out for yourself instead of tryin to figure out something so complex off of hearsay even the fact that you said buddhism is all about a really smart fat dude shows me that you are far from a thinking man and maybe you should try to get into that mindset before you attempt to figure something thats a bit too deep for you bro! love peace and chicken grease
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hinduism is related to shintoism and many other forms.... if you really want to learn about things like this then read the bible and the koran and sun tzus art of war and a million different texts that explain reasons for religious convictions and find the shit out for yourself instead of tryin to figure out something so complex off of hearsay even the fact that you said buddhism is all about a really smart fat dude shows me that you are far from a thinking man and maybe you should try to get into that mindset before you attempt to figure something thats a bit too deep for you bro! love peace and chicken grease


I cut out the first part of your post because it answers nothing I didnt already know. I'm asking for names of religions that arnt sect's of another religion. With hinduism and shintoism, how are they related? And which was the first religion that used the basic system these two use is what I would like to know.

I didnt expect straight up answers off a forum and I check every peice of new information people give me for flaws. Such as you telling me to read Sun Tzu's art of war to properly understand this question of the where religions origionated.

And by the way, how I type is irrelevant to how intelligent or how much of a thinking man I am. I think youd be surprised if you actually knew me and wernt just assuming things..
I mean...
Going out on a limb with assumptions based on one bracketed peice of information is beyond doubt a trait of a fool wouldnt you agree?

I'm trying to gather this information for a purpose which I'm not going to explain, its not to further understand religion although I'm always happy to learn things I'm interested in. Any information you can provide towards helping me answer the actual question I'm asking would be much apreciated.
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Hinduism is the only religion which originations are unknown..but it's changed so many times too.First it was the Vedas,Vishnu,SHiva....etc.

THen it became Satya Sai(who is alive in India right now)......but anyways...you guys probably don't know about what i'm talking about

Hinduism maybe (not sure about islam)the only religion that didn't originate from other beliefs.
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what about shinto and sikhism- i mentioned them in my first post but u didnt seem to notice...
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what about shinto and sikhism- i mentioned them in my first post but u didnt seem to notice...



sikhism
http://www.beliefnet.com/index/index_10036.html

"Sikhism originated in the Punjab region of northwest India, where it drew on elements from Bhakti Hinduism and Islamic Sufism to develop into a distinctive religious tradition in its own right."

Shinto
http://www.beliefnet.com/index/index_10030.html

"Shinto (or kami no michi, "way of the kami," or gods) is a prehistoric religious tradition indigenous to Japan, which has been influenced by Buddhism and Chinese religions"

Hinduism
http://www.religioustolerance.org/hinduism.htm

"Hinduism does not have a single founder"

Wherever you go...it will state that hinduism is the oldest religion and has no single founder...thus..it was not influenced by others.
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