Ok, I don't care if you agree with this or not
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R&B is NOT apart of Hip Hop OK. Shit. I'm gonna rant almost irrelevantly for a minute.

Reasons I hate R&B: CAuse its the same fuckin shit over and over again. Sex Love and cheating. Sex, love, and cheating. OVER AND OVER AGAIN. The music feel is almost always the same and it annoys the fuckin shit out of me

Reasons I love rap: To me it feels more comfortable. I like the tempo of it, and its rhythm. When I'm listening to a rap song and I vibe with it, it feels like I'm in my room having a conversation with the artists and it always brings me to the place they're describing or I can feel their pain/joy. Even when rap is wack it drifts me into a half built world of stupidity(but with da hoez and money doe yo!).

Just because r&b is "urban" too and you see more collabs going on between the two doesn't make it part of it. Please, I love hip hop, don't ruin it by letting these faggots in it. Kthxbye

No shit.

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It may be obvious to you, but so many people still say that shit.

Ya'll Niggas Gt Twisted Huh?!.
They Stupid Thats Why Indeph!

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dude, i fell EXACTLY the same way... i mean, i've never really heard anything new. its ALL the same. i just started giving it a chance because every now and then, somebody gets innovative and puts a new spin on it... fer example, that new Rhianna song called unfaithful, that was a VERY original spin on the whole cheating thing, and i liked it. and you gotta give Ne-Yo some credit for so sick. he's talkin about how he doesnt wanna be in love. i mean, mostly its all the same but there are exceptions. ppl'd prolly say the same thing about rap tho, ya know? thats why its OUR job as MC's to BE original and not just a "money cash hoes" rapper, nah leans? i think lyrical rap is WAY more musical, thought out and poetic than most R&B songs... the only thing u need for R &B is a voice(i know im exaggerating but w/e), but rap you need much more

R & B...Rap

Two different names, two different things.

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a good rule of thumb is normaly if its on mtv your not listening to good music

Lmao @ that making no sense whatsoever.

hmm.. yea fa real tho
most RnB is trash...same shit over n over... some is really awesome uplifting shit...
but with rap when its real u get the feeling the vibe... u feel like ur there and its hard and gritty
but yea... people shuld not group rnb singers as rappaz

i know some people who regard rnb singers as rappaz and call rap shit because of it....
know ur shit b4 u start to critisize lol
word... good thoughts

i like alot of R&B, but i do always consider it a separate genre, and i like it for different reasons... i completely feel u on the reasons why you like rap Deph, thats exactly how if feel... but i listen to R&B when im depressed or with a girl or somethin... or both

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lmao... y'all need to do some research.... where in da hell would rap be WITHOUT R&B?.... where do you think most of our beats come from?.... how are you gonna shyt on something that hip hop was partially built off of?... i mean really... look at da state of hip-hop... most of THIS shyt don't sound the same to you?... let's be real here for a minute... how many lean with it songs are out there right now?... how many of lil john's songs sound like all he did was change the title?.. how many wanna be thug songs are polluting the airwaves? ... if you got love for hip hop then you should have love for all kinds of music cuz that's where hip hop stems from... that shyt didn't just pop up outta thin air... it was influenced by jazz, rock and roll, country, gospel, and even rock music... get yaself into a music history class cuz obviously you got some shyt twisted... hip hop...REAL hip hop, that is... embraces ALL forms of music whether you wanna hear it or believe it or not

now with that said, R&B = Rhythm and BLUES... what da hell do you think the blues is about? pain and suffering... love... and all the shyt that you said you hated about it... those are the general topics of that genre... the only difference between the blues and R&B is the rhythm part... that's how it got it's name...

now let's get back to hip hop... what do you think the main topics are in hip hop? ...pain and suffering (surving the ghetto, selling drugs, pimping hoes, staying on ya hustle)... life (damn near every rapper claims how tough they had it)... love (for music, money, opposite sex, fame, notoriety, they peoples, the rap game, family, etc)

now with tha broken down like that how can you say that the shyt is completely different?... it is... but at the same time it's not... kats been saying the same shyt the r&b artists been saying for years... everybody got they own story to tell and it's all in how we tell it and the style we use in which to convey it...

let's stop being ignorant and embrace what has helped us to get to the point where we are today... and i don't mean ignorant in a bad way... i mean it in the definitive meaning of the word... truth is... without all these other genres there would be no hip hop... as soon as you learn that the sooner you'll be able to branch out as an artist and become an innovator instead of a follower

peep this quote...

"I betcha can't do it like me..." we all know where that comes from

my answer:

"I betcha I don't WANNA do it like you!"

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key werds were... when it's real!!!!! most rap ain't real... and you can hear it in the lyrics of most of the rappers that's out today

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Ig if you go by that philosophy than since rap uses guitars sometimes rock is part of hip hop. Since I heard violins in hip hop than classical is part of hip hop. Infleunce doesn't make something part of the music. Blues speaks about pain and suffering? So does basically every single art form known to man. Honestly the only shit thats keeping r&b and hip hop together is blackness and you can't even deny that.

And you sayin since r&b influenced hip hop I cant say one bad word about it? R&B cats right now tryna act like rappers, Hip hop is its own thing.