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Old 01-20-06, 10:18 AM   #1
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This is for Tito and everyone else who says Jay is a biter/weak

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Let's say Jay Z heard you rap and called you on the phone wanting to collab. Would you have the balls to say, "Sorry Jay, I don't want to work with you because you're a biter/weak?" Jay can flow, point blank. His lyrics are deeper than they seem because of the topics he chooses to rap about. I think all yall Jay haters should listen to "H to the izzo" and be happy!




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Old 01-20-06, 10:26 AM   #2
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It's a dog eat dog world fams you would be silly to turn something like that
down.

Like I said I respect Jay but you can't ignore the facts ! what ever you
want to call it biting or quoting Jay Z likes to do it too much.

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Old 01-20-06, 10:29 AM   #3
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It's a dog eat dog world fams you would be silly to turn something like that
down.

Like I said I respect Jay but you can't ignore the facts ! what ever you
want to call it biting or quoting Jay Z likes to do it too much.

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LOL

*turns up H to the Izzo V to the izz A*



Man...Someone should go back and research every rapper to see how much they all "quote" other rappers.

chep


Jay came up in the ranks dawg...man can freestyle like crazy
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Old 01-20-06, 10:37 AM   #4
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Trust me I don't need to research anything ! I know rap Q come on now I aint
now herbish newb to the rap game.

I just prefer to listen to Nas, Rakim and Mos Def....

And like I said many times before, if it's so common to quot some many
other rappers why isn't it publicized ? that the above rappers have done
so in the past ?
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Old 01-20-06, 10:40 AM   #5
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Trust me I don't need to research anything ! I know rap Q come on now I aint
now herbish newb to the rap game.

I just prefer to listen to Nas, Rakim and Mos Def....

And like I said many times before, if it's so common to quot some many
other rappers why isn't it publicized ? that the above rappers have done
so in the past ?




No need to get defensive...I don't know what you know about "rap"...I was merely saying that there should be a study as to the percentages of people's raps that have quotes from other rappers. I think it'd be interesting. And, I prefer Jay over those you mentioned for his flow alone. We won't even get into the lyrics. But, like you said, it's personal taste. I think Biggie's lyrics are so well documented, that it's obvious. I've heard countless rappers quote Biggie before, but they aren't scolded like Jay.
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Old 01-20-06, 10:50 AM   #6
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Yeah I know what your saying fams,.. it would be intersting to find out
but it would take some time per rapper.

Lyrically Rakim is like dam that man is a genius, some for Nas.
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Old 01-20-06, 10:54 AM   #7
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q... STFU.... seriously your fuckin ignorant to fuck.... first of all, NOBODY would turn it down, its an oppurtunity to get into the world of music on a song with sum1 who more or less runs it...... BUT, it doesnt change the fact, he bites lines. and you act like nobody knows h to the izzo, he did a fuckin video for christ sake, so of course everybody is going to know it, and the song isnt even THAT great.

but the biggest part of your ignorance is your in-ability to accept that everybody has their own fuckin opinion, fuckin live with it.... seriously.... i kno ur gay n all, but thats no excuse for riding ppls dicks the way u do... seriously, stfu and quit tryna act like people SHOULD look @ jay in a certain way... some people will agree with u, and some people wont, accept it... plain n simple
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Old 01-20-06, 10:58 AM   #8
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No need to get defensive...I don't know what you know about "rap"...I was merely saying that there should be a study as to the percentages of people's raps that have quotes from other rappers. I think it'd be interesting. And, I prefer Jay over those you mentioned for his flow alone. We won't even get into the lyrics. But, like you said, it's personal taste. I think Biggie's lyrics are so well documented, that it's obvious. I've heard countless rappers quote Biggie before, but they aren't scolded like Jay.


because jay recites biggie mainly but others aswell in EVERY damn song he does... he cant hold a song on his own that he needs to use other peoples rhymes to help fill out his verses... dont get me wrong, some of his songs have a good entertainment value but i really think ur givin him more respect than he deserves
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Old 01-20-06, 11:06 AM   #9
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Did this really require another thread to be made?
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Old 01-20-06, 11:38 AM   #10
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i aint hatin on dude... i just lost respect for him... you cant hide whats right there.... thatd be like telling a blind man the sky is orange...... hed be like... im blind im not stupid... he knows its blue... you cant deny truth... and to me ... Jay lost cool points
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Old 01-20-06, 11:55 AM   #11
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ima say this, regardless if jay bit lines or not, who really cares, obviously not 99.9 percent of his fans, bcuz they buy his albums and give him props, the think he raw regardless if he bit or not, so really who gives a shit if he bites or not, it wont make our lives any better
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Old 01-20-06, 11:58 AM   #12
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i aint hatin on dude... i just lost respect for him... you cant hide whats right there.... thatd be like telling a blind man the sky is orange...... hed be like... im blind im not stupid... he knows its blue... you cant deny truth... and to me ... Jay lost cool points


was he born blind? cuz if he was born blind, how would he know the sky was really blue?
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Old 01-20-06, 12:21 PM   #13
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Q man... This is some bullshit.............Straight up..

Jay Z is wack as fuck on a rap level... But principles can kiss my ass when it comes to getting my music heard by a larger audience........

It aint about having 'balls' to turn down that offer... Hell I'd do the track just for the promotion then ditch jay soon as I can stand on my own two feet... Your on some idealistic nonsense man.
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Old 01-20-06, 12:33 PM   #14
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Wow...no one agrees with the q.

well i do actually,i love jay as an artist,i dont give a fuck if he quotes to many lines.....and yes he is quoting the lines..why the fuck would he bite biggies lines,like no body would notice,all rappers quote shit,maybe jay does it more,but look how much music he puts out.the guy retires and still drops more albums than everyone else,its crazy,and the guy is talented.the way he records right there on the spot without even writing a word down,plus the things he raps about,BUT...obviously people are gona disagree,everyone has different opinions and taste..so when someone says that they aint feelin him i can understand.but if you ask me who the overall greatest rapper is...ima say jigga...
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Old 01-20-06, 12:39 PM   #15
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because jay recites others aswell in EVERY damn song he
does...



<--would like to see some proof..cuz i've never noticed it...and i followed jay up into la familia..then i stopped buying CD's...so..
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